1 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:18,170 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:28,504 --> 00:00:35,546 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:42,337 --> 00:00:47,838 ♪ ♪ 4 00:00:47,838 --> 00:00:51,254 - Um, this is for MSG's Digital Content Department. 5 00:00:51,254 --> 00:00:53,713 So could say your name and... 6 00:00:53,713 --> 00:00:55,504 - That's okay. - I'm Scott Avett. 7 00:00:55,504 --> 00:00:57,170 I'm with the Avett Brothers. 8 00:00:57,170 --> 00:00:58,962 I sing and play the banjo 9 00:00:58,962 --> 00:01:01,421 and the piano and the guitar. 10 00:01:01,421 --> 00:01:03,379 - I'm Seth Avett. 11 00:01:03,379 --> 00:01:05,671 I play and sing with the Avett Brothers. 12 00:01:05,671 --> 00:01:07,004 - Awesome. 13 00:01:07,004 --> 00:01:09,004 And can you talk a little bit about, uh, 14 00:01:09,004 --> 00:01:12,879 playing at MSG and coming here today? 15 00:01:12,879 --> 00:01:15,212 - Yeah, we can't talk a whole lot about playing yet 16 00:01:15,212 --> 00:01:16,796 because we never have before but-- 17 00:01:16,796 --> 00:01:18,379 - Well, the feeling to just be in the arena? 18 00:01:18,379 --> 00:01:20,045 - No, I got you. No, this is our first time 19 00:01:20,045 --> 00:01:21,920 playing at MSG, and we're super excited 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,087 because it's a place of such legend and history. 21 00:01:26,087 --> 00:01:28,129 Okay, I just got lost. 22 00:01:29,588 --> 00:01:31,629 - Yeah. Sure do. 23 00:01:31,629 --> 00:01:33,212 - Awesome-sauce! - Yeah. 24 00:01:33,212 --> 00:01:35,588 - "Awesome-sauce." 25 00:01:37,254 --> 00:01:39,337 - Hey, guys, this is Lauren from "Huffington Post." 26 00:01:39,337 --> 00:01:41,004 - Hi, guys. - Hello. 27 00:01:41,004 --> 00:01:43,546 - Hi. So nice to see you. I've met you guys once before. 28 00:01:43,546 --> 00:01:44,879 - Nice to meet you. Thank you so much. 29 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:46,337 - Yes. Thank you. - Yeah. 30 00:01:46,337 --> 00:01:47,754 - "True Sadness," let's talk about that. 31 00:01:47,754 --> 00:01:49,254 - I love the new album. 32 00:01:49,254 --> 00:01:50,713 - I love the record, first of all. 33 00:01:50,713 --> 00:01:52,296 I'm wondering if you kind of take me back 34 00:01:52,296 --> 00:01:54,129 to, like, the very first sessions 35 00:01:54,129 --> 00:01:55,629 when you guys realized that you were 36 00:01:55,629 --> 00:01:58,754 gonna start putting another record together? 37 00:01:58,754 --> 00:02:01,920 [The Avett Brothers "Laundry Room" plays] 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:08,754 ♪ ♪ 39 00:02:08,754 --> 00:02:13,004 - ♪ Don't push me out ♪ 40 00:02:15,713 --> 00:02:19,504 ♪ Just a little longer ♪ 41 00:02:22,254 --> 00:02:25,629 ♪ Stall your mother ♪ 42 00:02:25,629 --> 00:02:29,962 ♪ Disregard your father's words ♪ 43 00:02:35,087 --> 00:02:39,462 ♪ Close the laundry door ♪ 44 00:02:41,546 --> 00:02:45,170 ♪ Tiptoe across the floor ♪ 45 00:02:48,087 --> 00:02:51,212 ♪ Keep your clothes on ♪ 46 00:02:51,212 --> 00:02:57,713 ♪ I've got all that I can take ♪ 47 00:03:01,004 --> 00:03:03,504 ♪ Teach me how to use ♪ 48 00:03:03,504 --> 00:03:08,337 ♪ The love that people say you made ♪ 49 00:03:08,337 --> 00:03:11,004 ♪ Teach me how to use ♪ 50 00:03:11,004 --> 00:03:14,462 ♪ The love that people say you made ♪ 51 00:03:16,838 --> 00:03:20,546 ♪ ♪ 52 00:03:20,546 --> 00:03:24,838 - Last night I dreamt the whole night long. 53 00:03:27,337 --> 00:03:33,546 ♪ And I woke with a head full of songs ♪ 54 00:03:33,546 --> 00:03:36,045 ♪ ♪ 55 00:03:36,045 --> 00:03:39,462 - ♪ I spent the whole day ♪ 56 00:03:39,462 --> 00:03:41,296 ♪ I wrote them down ♪ 57 00:03:41,296 --> 00:03:47,212 ♪ But it's a shame ♪ 58 00:03:50,129 --> 00:03:53,838 ♪ Tonight I'll burn the lyrics ♪ 59 00:03:53,838 --> 00:03:58,920 ♪ 'Cause every chorus was your name ♪ 60 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,212 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 61 00:04:01,212 --> 00:04:04,879 ♪ ♪ 62 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:08,212 - ♪ I am a breathing time machine ♪ 63 00:04:08,212 --> 00:04:11,296 - ♪ I am a breathing time machine ♪ 64 00:04:11,296 --> 00:04:14,920 - ♪ I am a breathing time machine ♪ 65 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,504 - ♪ And I'll take you all for a ride ♪ 66 00:04:19,504 --> 00:04:22,004 - ♪ Break this tired old routine ♪ 67 00:04:22,004 --> 00:04:27,087 - ♪ Man, I am a breathing time machine ♪ 68 00:04:27,087 --> 00:04:33,087 - ♪ And this time don't let me leave ♪ 69 00:04:33,087 --> 00:04:35,504 Yeah! 70 00:04:35,504 --> 00:04:42,588 ♪ ♪ 71 00:04:49,087 --> 00:04:50,129 Come on! 72 00:04:54,087 --> 00:04:55,754 Go! 73 00:04:57,296 --> 00:04:58,962 Go! 74 00:05:01,129 --> 00:05:04,129 - Ohhh! 75 00:05:04,129 --> 00:05:09,129 ♪ ♪ 76 00:05:17,546 --> 00:05:20,462 - All right, all right, all right, thank you! 77 00:05:49,546 --> 00:05:56,671 ♪ ♪ 78 00:06:13,754 --> 00:06:17,504 - ♪ And if you take my heart ♪ 79 00:06:17,504 --> 00:06:21,879 ♪ Don't leave the smallest part ♪ 80 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:24,004 ♪ I've no need to live ♪ 81 00:06:24,004 --> 00:06:29,045 ♪ If you're to come up gone ♪ 82 00:06:29,045 --> 00:06:32,754 ♪ And as my life turns to a song ♪ 83 00:06:32,754 --> 00:06:36,462 ♪ And if and when I treat you wrong ♪ 84 00:06:36,462 --> 00:06:41,920 ♪ No I never want to hurt our family ♪ 85 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,546 ♪ ♪ 86 00:06:56,879 --> 00:07:03,504 ♪ ♪ 87 00:07:03,504 --> 00:07:06,212 ♪ There ain't no man can save me ♪ 88 00:07:06,212 --> 00:07:09,004 ♪ There ain't no man can enslave me ♪ 89 00:07:09,004 --> 00:07:11,129 ♪ There ain't no man or men ♪ 90 00:07:11,129 --> 00:07:15,087 ♪ That can change the shape my soul is in ♪ 91 00:07:15,087 --> 00:07:16,920 ♪ There ain't nobody here... ♪ 92 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,588 - If you look at the history of, um, bands with siblings, 93 00:07:20,588 --> 00:07:25,629 whether it be the Bee Gees, The Kinks, The Everly Brothers, 94 00:07:25,629 --> 00:07:27,629 any--any ones that we can think of 95 00:07:27,629 --> 00:07:29,212 they tend to hate each other. 96 00:07:29,212 --> 00:07:30,920 I think the Avetts are 97 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,379 the rare example of a family-based band 98 00:07:35,379 --> 00:07:38,629 where there is love and understanding and, uh, 99 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:41,379 appreciation for what the other brings. 100 00:07:41,379 --> 00:07:44,379 - I remember when dad--my mom-- our mom was making fun 101 00:07:44,379 --> 00:07:48,170 of our dad--uh, a tie that he wore to church one morning 102 00:07:48,170 --> 00:07:49,838 and we were on our way to church-- 103 00:07:49,838 --> 00:07:51,504 - We were all making fun of it. 104 00:07:51,504 --> 00:07:53,671 - And we just kept on and on about it. 105 00:07:53,671 --> 00:07:55,296 He said, "You guys don't like my tie." 106 00:07:55,296 --> 00:07:57,045 He took it off and blew his nose on it 107 00:07:57,045 --> 00:07:59,087 and threw it out the window. 108 00:07:59,087 --> 00:08:01,796 - In the first 30 seconds of meeting them, 109 00:08:01,796 --> 00:08:04,129 I knew they were people that I wanted to work with. 110 00:08:04,129 --> 00:08:06,796 And it seemed like being around them 111 00:08:06,796 --> 00:08:10,212 would, um, make life better. 112 00:08:10,212 --> 00:08:11,920 - ♪ If you're looking for truth ♪ 113 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,796 ♪ I'm proof you'll find it there ♪ 114 00:08:14,796 --> 00:08:16,379 And then you do like you're little sweet... 115 00:08:16,379 --> 00:08:18,045 - Uh, it should be like, uh... 116 00:08:18,045 --> 00:08:20,588 ♪ If you're looking for truth ♪ 117 00:08:20,588 --> 00:08:23,004 ♪ I'm proof you'll find ♪ 118 00:08:23,004 --> 00:08:24,962 - Yeah. 119 00:08:24,962 --> 00:08:28,754 - ♪ It there ♪ 120 00:08:28,754 --> 00:08:30,546 - Yeah. 121 00:08:32,421 --> 00:08:36,504 - Yeah. 122 00:08:36,504 --> 00:08:38,546 - When you have a-- a minister as a grandfather, 123 00:08:38,546 --> 00:08:40,254 which I only-- I was baptized by 124 00:08:40,254 --> 00:08:42,337 but never--never spoke to because he died 125 00:08:42,337 --> 00:08:43,920 the same year I was born. 126 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,713 A lot of his sermons are out there. 127 00:08:45,713 --> 00:08:47,421 When you read these and when you realize, 128 00:08:47,421 --> 00:08:50,337 I came from the son of this man, 129 00:08:50,337 --> 00:08:55,129 he knew or believed that how he felt about things mattered, 130 00:08:55,129 --> 00:08:56,879 and that people wanted to hear 131 00:08:56,879 --> 00:08:58,838 how he felt and how he viewed those things. 132 00:08:58,838 --> 00:09:02,337 And we kind of just carried that on early thinking, 133 00:09:02,337 --> 00:09:04,713 um, yes, I feel something, 134 00:09:04,713 --> 00:09:06,838 and people wanna hear about it. 135 00:09:06,838 --> 00:09:09,379 You know, you're completely wrong sometimes, 136 00:09:09,379 --> 00:09:11,421 but we just kind of grew up thinking, 137 00:09:11,421 --> 00:09:12,879 everybody wants to hear about it. 138 00:09:12,879 --> 00:09:14,212 They--they must. 139 00:09:14,212 --> 00:09:15,962 Don't they wanna know how I feel? 140 00:09:15,962 --> 00:09:19,045 ♪ You walk the streets each day ♪ 141 00:09:19,045 --> 00:09:21,671 ♪ The people stop and move ♪ 142 00:09:21,671 --> 00:09:26,129 ♪ Stop and move ♪ 143 00:09:26,129 --> 00:09:29,546 ♪ And then they ask for money ♪ 144 00:09:29,546 --> 00:09:31,421 ♪ You never give them change ♪ 145 00:09:31,421 --> 00:09:35,421 ♪ It's just your style ♪ 146 00:09:35,421 --> 00:09:39,629 - We established our trust really, really early 147 00:09:39,629 --> 00:09:42,713 because there are all these bonds and all these dynamics 148 00:09:42,713 --> 00:09:45,004 that become established when you're children. 149 00:09:45,004 --> 00:09:47,671 He's my older brother. He's bigger, he's stronger. 150 00:09:47,671 --> 00:09:49,170 He knows how to do all these things 151 00:09:49,170 --> 00:09:50,838 I don't know how to do. 152 00:09:50,838 --> 00:09:53,838 So I have much less trouble deferring to him 153 00:09:53,838 --> 00:09:59,337 than I would to someone who-- who is--is not my brother. 154 00:09:59,337 --> 00:10:05,920 - ♪ You'll have to meet me in another time and place ♪ 155 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:12,087 ♪ The roof over my past has fallen in ♪ 156 00:10:12,087 --> 00:10:14,379 ♪ ♪ 157 00:10:14,379 --> 00:10:16,671 ♪ You get the-- ♪ 158 00:10:16,671 --> 00:10:18,546 - No, it's the--it's, uh-- 159 00:10:18,546 --> 00:10:22,004 ♪ Falling in ♪ 160 00:10:22,004 --> 00:10:23,546 It's only, like, three notes away. 161 00:10:23,546 --> 00:10:25,045 It's not, like, way up there. 162 00:10:25,045 --> 00:10:26,212 - ♪ In-in ♪ 163 00:10:26,212 --> 00:10:28,796 - Yeah. - Again. 164 00:10:28,796 --> 00:10:33,129 - ♪ In another time and place ♪ 165 00:10:33,129 --> 00:10:35,629 ♪ The roof over my past ♪ 166 00:10:35,629 --> 00:10:42,129 ♪ Has fallen in ♪ 167 00:10:42,129 --> 00:10:43,962 ♪ You get the--♪ 168 00:10:43,962 --> 00:10:45,629 - I'm gonna so kill this once I learn it. 169 00:10:45,629 --> 00:10:48,296 - No doubt, but that was it though. Well done. 170 00:10:48,296 --> 00:10:50,796 - Seth's the sweetest person I've ever met. 171 00:10:50,796 --> 00:10:54,254 And let's not say Scott's not sweet. 172 00:10:54,254 --> 00:10:58,296 But then Scott is like a carnival coming at you 173 00:10:58,296 --> 00:11:00,129 with all the rides. 174 00:11:00,129 --> 00:11:02,879 It just works. Luckily, it works. 175 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:05,671 - I think because they're so different, 176 00:11:05,671 --> 00:11:08,421 they fit together perfectly. 177 00:11:08,421 --> 00:11:10,504 - Oh! 178 00:11:15,087 --> 00:11:16,045 - Good game. 179 00:11:16,045 --> 00:11:17,671 We do disagree. 180 00:11:17,671 --> 00:11:19,629 You know, there are certain things we just-- 181 00:11:19,629 --> 00:11:22,838 we just flat-out do not have the same feeling towards. 182 00:11:22,838 --> 00:11:24,379 I just lean towards a certain thing, 183 00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:26,129 and he leans toward-- toward another, 184 00:11:26,129 --> 00:11:27,838 and then it's--it's kind of a fun, like, kind of game 185 00:11:27,838 --> 00:11:29,754 to figure out how it's gonna end up where we're 186 00:11:29,754 --> 00:11:32,129 both happy, because it will, you know, eventually. 187 00:11:32,129 --> 00:11:34,004 Even if it just ends up me completely going, 188 00:11:34,004 --> 00:11:36,087 "Uh, let's just do what you wanna do." 189 00:11:36,087 --> 00:11:38,087 Eventually, we're probably not even gonna 190 00:11:38,087 --> 00:11:39,920 remember the fight so... 191 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,671 - Thanks, dude. - Hey, good job today. 192 00:11:42,671 --> 00:11:45,671 - I'll talk to you this week. - All right. 193 00:11:45,671 --> 00:11:47,004 - Good night. I love you. 194 00:11:47,004 --> 00:11:49,170 - Good night. I love you. 195 00:11:55,629 --> 00:12:02,713 ♪ ♪ 196 00:12:11,296 --> 00:12:16,379 ♪ ♪ 197 00:12:19,588 --> 00:12:22,129 ♪ ♪ 198 00:12:22,129 --> 00:12:24,421 - You gonna split some wood for me? 199 00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:28,920 - Might--might replace that with a "with." 200 00:12:37,462 --> 00:12:38,920 - I've only ever really wanted to be two things: 201 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,962 an astronaut, at about five, 202 00:12:40,962 --> 00:12:42,754 and then around six or seven it changed 203 00:12:42,754 --> 00:12:45,087 to wanting to be a musician. 204 00:12:45,087 --> 00:12:46,629 Dad ran a welding business, 205 00:12:46,629 --> 00:12:48,421 and Mom eventually was a teacher, 206 00:12:48,421 --> 00:12:49,838 but she was a stay-at-home mom when we were-- 207 00:12:49,838 --> 00:12:51,462 when we were real little. 208 00:12:51,462 --> 00:12:53,920 I remembered, uh, dad always playing songs 209 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,838 for us, always had a guitar in the living room. 210 00:12:56,838 --> 00:13:00,838 Around that time, I saw the benefit of--of building 211 00:13:00,838 --> 00:13:04,212 this ability to play guitar, that if I can do that, 212 00:13:04,212 --> 00:13:06,838 I will be able to be a complement to--to Scott 213 00:13:06,838 --> 00:13:08,629 because he's a singer, you know. 214 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:10,713 Like, I thought of Scott as a--as a lead singer. 215 00:13:10,713 --> 00:13:13,087 12, 13 years old, he's just the-- 216 00:13:13,087 --> 00:13:14,879 the kid that will get up in front of anybody 217 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:16,588 and dance around and sing, you know, off the cuff. 218 00:13:16,588 --> 00:13:20,129 - So what you got here are some pretty wet wood. 219 00:13:20,129 --> 00:13:22,296 It's still pretty damp. We want it to dry. 220 00:13:22,296 --> 00:13:24,087 It's a little late in the season. 221 00:13:24,087 --> 00:13:29,170 So I'm trying to stack it kind of spacey, generously, 222 00:13:29,170 --> 00:13:31,879 allow air to go through it. 223 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:33,962 You know, when I was eight years old, 224 00:13:33,962 --> 00:13:36,629 I did a lip-syncing, uh, performance 225 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:38,504 of a Hall and Oates song, 226 00:13:38,504 --> 00:13:41,170 and I remember thinking before I did it that there's-- 227 00:13:41,170 --> 00:13:45,962 there'll be some talent scout that'll happen to be around, 228 00:13:45,962 --> 00:13:47,962 probably pass the window and see this, 229 00:13:47,962 --> 00:13:50,129 and they're gonna--they're gonna just see stardom-- 230 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:51,629 like they know. 231 00:13:51,629 --> 00:13:53,379 I mean, I know it's just a matter of time 232 00:13:53,379 --> 00:13:55,337 before they know and I'm scooped up 233 00:13:55,337 --> 00:13:57,045 and swept away into the-- 234 00:13:57,045 --> 00:13:59,170 wherever the-- the movie town is. 235 00:13:59,170 --> 00:14:00,713 If that's Hollywood, that's what I heard. 236 00:14:00,713 --> 00:14:03,129 Or is it New York or is it somewhere else? 237 00:14:03,129 --> 00:14:05,379 The funny thing is, 238 00:14:05,379 --> 00:14:09,379 is here's a director from New York 239 00:14:09,379 --> 00:14:11,713 in the woods where I used to run around and dream 240 00:14:11,713 --> 00:14:13,671 that there would be a-- a director 241 00:14:13,671 --> 00:14:16,129 from New York filming me. 242 00:14:16,129 --> 00:14:17,671 I need to get this even, 243 00:14:17,671 --> 00:14:20,796 then I'll feel like I'll be good for the winter. 244 00:14:20,796 --> 00:14:23,462 - I bet--I bet you're pretty good feeling already. 245 00:14:23,462 --> 00:14:24,838 - I need to get this even 246 00:14:24,838 --> 00:14:26,546 and then double this right here. 247 00:14:26,546 --> 00:14:28,337 - You know, it depends on how much the winter is. 248 00:14:28,337 --> 00:14:30,421 When it starts and how long it lasts and how-- 249 00:14:30,421 --> 00:14:31,962 how bad it is when it's here. 250 00:14:31,962 --> 00:14:33,838 - Well, that's-- that's all well and true, 251 00:14:33,838 --> 00:14:35,671 but Scott also has central heating. 252 00:14:37,004 --> 00:14:38,838 - So I think that we'll probably-- 253 00:14:38,838 --> 00:14:40,337 - You don't know what will happen. 254 00:14:40,337 --> 00:14:41,629 - Scott--Scott, you know it all depends 255 00:14:41,629 --> 00:14:43,462 on how long the winter lasts 256 00:14:43,462 --> 00:14:46,838 and also if the central heating repairman can make his-- 257 00:14:46,838 --> 00:14:48,296 make his way out to the house. 258 00:14:48,296 --> 00:14:51,212 - Hey, dad, are we laughing at that? 259 00:14:51,212 --> 00:14:52,962 - Younger than 13, 260 00:14:52,962 --> 00:14:57,212 Scott and I were-- were not friends really. 261 00:14:57,212 --> 00:14:59,170 - One, two, three, four. 262 00:14:59,170 --> 00:15:01,629 - Four years is not that big of a difference now. 263 00:15:01,629 --> 00:15:04,254 Four years is-- is nothing when you're 60, 264 00:15:04,254 --> 00:15:06,838 but at 5 and 9, it's pretty-- 265 00:15:06,838 --> 00:15:08,504 that's a pretty major difference. 266 00:15:08,504 --> 00:15:10,421 At--at 8 and 12, it's a pretty major difference. 267 00:15:10,421 --> 00:15:12,879 - Seth, he just never-- he was, uh-- 268 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,045 he was just smiling all the time. 269 00:15:15,045 --> 00:15:17,254 A real sweet kid, real sweet. 270 00:15:17,254 --> 00:15:18,962 And, uh, I always joke with him and say, you need-- 271 00:15:18,962 --> 00:15:20,379 he had this crew cut 272 00:15:20,379 --> 00:15:22,087 when he was 11 years old and I'm like, 273 00:15:22,087 --> 00:15:23,504 "You need a crew cut so I can remember you like 274 00:15:23,504 --> 00:15:25,170 that little 11-year old kid," 275 00:15:25,170 --> 00:15:26,754 that I could-- that I could mess with him. 276 00:15:26,754 --> 00:15:28,254 And he'd say, "Scott." 277 00:15:28,254 --> 00:15:31,170 - Scott took advantage a lot of Seth. 278 00:15:31,170 --> 00:15:33,087 Not in a malicious way but in a conniving way. 279 00:15:33,087 --> 00:15:34,421 - Just like big brothers do. 280 00:15:34,421 --> 00:15:35,962 - In a conniving way. - Yeah. 281 00:15:35,962 --> 00:15:37,671 - I always wanted to hang out with him, 282 00:15:37,671 --> 00:15:38,962 and he was always keep-- 283 00:15:38,962 --> 00:15:40,421 you know, keeping me in a distance. 284 00:15:40,421 --> 00:15:42,629 That's--that was kind of the--the dynamic. 285 00:16:02,713 --> 00:16:07,296 - From a very early age, Scott took on the role of, um, 286 00:16:07,296 --> 00:16:09,754 of protector in a way for me. 287 00:16:09,754 --> 00:16:11,671 - I was really afraid of how it'd feel 288 00:16:11,671 --> 00:16:13,462 to see Seth get hurt. 289 00:16:13,462 --> 00:16:15,337 I would also worry a lot when we couldn't find him, 290 00:16:15,337 --> 00:16:17,129 like we'd lose him in a department store. 291 00:16:17,129 --> 00:16:21,129 I would just worry to no end. 292 00:16:21,129 --> 00:16:23,462 - If I announced that I was going to the store 293 00:16:23,462 --> 00:16:26,129 and Seth was going with me, he would find a way to go too 294 00:16:26,129 --> 00:16:32,004 because he thought I couldn't watch Seth up to his standards. 295 00:16:32,004 --> 00:16:33,504 - He always had his-- 296 00:16:33,504 --> 00:16:35,546 his kidnapping radar on or whatever. 297 00:16:35,546 --> 00:16:37,462 He was always worried I was gonna get kidnapped. 298 00:16:37,462 --> 00:16:39,796 I'm not sure if he saw a television show or something, 299 00:16:39,796 --> 00:16:43,129 but he was damn near obsessed with--with the idea of--of-- 300 00:16:43,129 --> 00:16:46,129 of me being kidnapped, which is kind of ridiculous because, 301 00:16:46,129 --> 00:16:49,129 uh, he was simultaneously the older brother that, you know, 302 00:16:49,129 --> 00:16:50,838 would grab me in a headlock, you know, or whatever. 303 00:16:50,838 --> 00:16:52,504 So it's kind of like, you know, 304 00:16:52,504 --> 00:16:54,212 are you protecting me or are you attacking me? 305 00:16:54,212 --> 00:16:56,129 Like which--which one we got going on here? 306 00:16:56,129 --> 00:16:58,337 - I'd do just like, you know, kind of mean things. 307 00:16:58,337 --> 00:17:00,129 I used to put pillows in his shirt. 308 00:17:00,129 --> 00:17:02,962 I said, "Put pillows all in your shirt, all around it. 309 00:17:02,962 --> 00:17:04,920 "I'm gonna show you what to do if a bully comes. 310 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,838 And I'm gonna be the bully. Okay, let me show you." 311 00:17:06,838 --> 00:17:08,713 And then I would just, you know, wail on him 312 00:17:08,713 --> 00:17:11,045 and knock him down and say, "Now, what do you do?" 313 00:17:11,045 --> 00:17:15,462 You know, but he was really tolerant of that. 314 00:17:15,462 --> 00:17:18,004 - Probably around 14, 15 is when we became friends. 315 00:17:18,004 --> 00:17:20,838 When I was 14 or so. He's 18. 316 00:17:20,838 --> 00:17:23,129 We--we sort of joined forces in a way. 317 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:28,671 - Gotta be purposeful. 17-12. 318 00:17:31,170 --> 00:17:33,671 - It's still spinning. - Ohh! 319 00:17:33,671 --> 00:17:35,796 - That was a big pivotal point right there. 320 00:17:35,796 --> 00:17:37,379 - Big point. 321 00:17:37,379 --> 00:17:40,379 - I both consider Scott the greatest songwriter 322 00:17:40,379 --> 00:17:42,004 ever from North Carolina, 323 00:17:42,004 --> 00:17:44,713 and I consider Seth the greatest songwriter 324 00:17:44,713 --> 00:17:46,546 ever from North Carolina. 325 00:17:46,546 --> 00:17:49,546 I'm--I'm just glad they play in the same band. 326 00:17:49,546 --> 00:17:51,254 - ♪ Don't I look ♪ 327 00:17:51,254 --> 00:17:56,337 - ♪ Winter's on its way here without you ♪ 328 00:17:58,212 --> 00:17:59,546 - I don't think so. 329 00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:01,212 I've heard-- I've heard several. 330 00:18:01,212 --> 00:18:03,170 - I think you've heard this but it was, uh... 331 00:18:03,170 --> 00:18:06,045 - I'm not sure about name. - It really didn't have a name. 332 00:18:06,045 --> 00:18:08,879 It's one of my all-time favorite songs ever. 333 00:18:08,879 --> 00:18:11,713 You gotta hear it. 334 00:18:11,713 --> 00:18:13,546 - Two, three, four. 335 00:18:13,546 --> 00:18:16,920 ["Rejects in the Attic" begins] 336 00:18:20,671 --> 00:18:27,754 ♪ ♪ 337 00:18:30,754 --> 00:18:32,754 ♪ I've been hanging out ♪ 338 00:18:32,754 --> 00:18:35,546 ♪ With the rejects in the attic ♪ 339 00:18:39,421 --> 00:18:42,170 ♪ Can't get out of my head ♪ 340 00:18:42,170 --> 00:18:46,421 ♪ The way you left ♪ 341 00:18:48,379 --> 00:18:50,796 ♪ I got a sense of belonging ♪ 342 00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:53,337 ♪ But what does it matter ♪ 343 00:18:55,962 --> 00:19:01,754 ♪ And winter's on its way here to collect ♪ 344 00:19:05,004 --> 00:19:10,129 - ♪ I was born on the outskirts of a dream ♪ 345 00:19:10,129 --> 00:19:13,004 ♪ ♪ 346 00:19:13,004 --> 00:19:19,170 ♪ My daddy was a miner of almost anything ♪ 347 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,129 ♪ And I've been busting stones ♪ 348 00:19:26,129 --> 00:19:30,421 ♪ Too proud to go back home ♪ 349 00:19:30,421 --> 00:19:37,170 ♪ Admit that all my digging was in vain ♪ 350 00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:41,838 - ♪ But don't we talk different than we did ♪ 351 00:19:41,838 --> 00:19:44,045 ♪ Am I more quiet ♪ 352 00:19:44,045 --> 00:19:45,796 - ♪ Than I've been ♪ 353 00:19:45,796 --> 00:19:48,671 - ♪ And don't you look brighter ♪ 354 00:19:48,671 --> 00:19:50,296 - ♪ Than the moon ♪ 355 00:19:50,296 --> 00:19:54,671 - ♪ Don't I look different ♪ 356 00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:57,713 - ♪ Without you ♪ 357 00:19:57,713 --> 00:20:02,962 - ♪ Well, don't I look different ♪ 358 00:20:02,962 --> 00:20:08,296 - ♪ Without you ♪ 359 00:20:08,296 --> 00:20:10,671 ♪ ♪ 360 00:20:10,671 --> 00:20:14,087 - That ability to really share 361 00:20:14,087 --> 00:20:18,629 their innermost, deepest, private thoughts 362 00:20:18,629 --> 00:20:20,962 is what makes a great songwriter a great songwriter, 363 00:20:20,962 --> 00:20:24,045 but typically it's done more a solo mission. 364 00:20:24,045 --> 00:20:26,879 So the fact that they are able to do it together 365 00:20:26,879 --> 00:20:29,546 and then help each other through that process 366 00:20:29,546 --> 00:20:32,045 or add to each other's process, 367 00:20:32,045 --> 00:20:34,462 allows their songwriting to grow 368 00:20:34,462 --> 00:20:36,838 in a different way than--than most. 369 00:20:36,838 --> 00:20:39,129 - ♪ And don't we talk different ♪ 370 00:20:39,129 --> 00:20:40,879 - ♪ Than we did ♪ 371 00:20:40,879 --> 00:20:43,087 - ♪ Am I more quiet well ♪ 372 00:20:43,087 --> 00:20:44,920 - ♪ Than I've been ♪ 373 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,546 - ♪ And don't you look brighter ♪ 374 00:20:47,546 --> 00:20:49,212 - ♪ Than the moon ♪ 375 00:20:49,212 --> 00:20:53,838 - ♪ Don't I look different ♪ 376 00:20:53,838 --> 00:20:57,379 - ♪ Without you ♪ 377 00:20:57,379 --> 00:21:02,504 - ♪ Don't I look different ♪ 378 00:21:02,504 --> 00:21:07,212 ♪ ♪ 379 00:21:07,212 --> 00:21:11,379 - ♪ Winter's on its way here to collect ♪ 380 00:21:11,379 --> 00:21:15,212 - ♪ Well don't I look, well don't I look ♪ 381 00:21:15,212 --> 00:21:19,671 - ♪ Winter's on its way here to collect ♪ 382 00:21:19,671 --> 00:21:23,421 - ♪ Well don't I look, well don't I look different ♪ 383 00:21:23,421 --> 00:21:27,796 - ♪ Winter's on its way here to collect ♪ 384 00:21:27,796 --> 00:21:31,421 - ♪ Well don't I look, well don't I look ♪ 385 00:21:31,421 --> 00:21:36,796 - ♪ Winter's on its way here without you ♪ 386 00:21:40,045 --> 00:21:46,337 ♪ Winter's on its way here without you ♪ 387 00:21:49,629 --> 00:21:51,796 - I'd like these guys even if they weren't my sons, 388 00:21:51,796 --> 00:21:53,962 you know that? 389 00:21:58,754 --> 00:22:02,796 - So I built this chicken house, that's right. 390 00:22:07,170 --> 00:22:10,962 - Can I pet that chicken for a second? 391 00:22:10,962 --> 00:22:13,004 I want it. 392 00:22:16,504 --> 00:22:18,713 - There's a weird thing that happens, um-- 393 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:20,671 or happened for me and Scott anyway, 394 00:22:20,671 --> 00:22:23,671 growing up around cows and-- and tractors, 395 00:22:23,671 --> 00:22:25,546 and all these country things, country music, 396 00:22:25,546 --> 00:22:27,212 our Dad being very country, 397 00:22:27,212 --> 00:22:29,296 lots of pearl button shirts, you know. 398 00:22:29,296 --> 00:22:31,337 There was something that-- 399 00:22:31,337 --> 00:22:33,379 something in us that at some point was like, 400 00:22:33,379 --> 00:22:34,671 you just wanna reject it, you know. 401 00:22:37,004 --> 00:22:40,920 We don't wanna be identified with the area we grew up in, 402 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,296 you know, which is dominated by, 403 00:22:43,296 --> 00:22:47,588 uh, blue-collar work, the country, and NASCAR really. 404 00:22:47,588 --> 00:22:50,504 - We were like, "Oh, you know, this country music's dumb, Dad. 405 00:22:50,504 --> 00:22:54,879 You know, we want Hall and Oates, Prince, Duran Duran. 406 00:22:54,879 --> 00:22:57,212 - The way that I saw a way to kind of 407 00:22:57,212 --> 00:23:01,920 culturally broaden my horizon was Kurt Cobain basically, 408 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,754 you know, like a lot of us did. 409 00:23:03,754 --> 00:23:05,838 - ♪ I love you but I can't remember why ♪ 410 00:23:07,713 --> 00:23:09,421 - When I was 16, I wouldn't have thought-- 411 00:23:09,421 --> 00:23:11,129 I would never have touched a banjo. 412 00:23:11,129 --> 00:23:12,629 And we made fun of anybody 413 00:23:12,629 --> 00:23:14,421 that wore cowboy boots, you know. 414 00:23:14,421 --> 00:23:16,588 We--we played soccer, we listened to Nirvana, 415 00:23:16,588 --> 00:23:20,421 we wore thermal underwear with cargo shorts, Dr. Martens 416 00:23:20,421 --> 00:23:23,045 and that was that. 417 00:23:23,045 --> 00:23:27,421 ♪ ♪ 418 00:23:27,421 --> 00:23:29,045 - Let's go through this gate right here. 419 00:23:29,045 --> 00:23:30,629 - Okay. 420 00:23:30,629 --> 00:23:33,754 I came back to the music of North Carolina and-- 421 00:23:33,754 --> 00:23:38,546 and a rural-based country type music 422 00:23:38,546 --> 00:23:42,129 with a vengeance because I-- I had the opportunity to go 423 00:23:42,129 --> 00:23:44,796 and meet Doc Watson when I was 14 years old 424 00:23:44,796 --> 00:23:46,754 and go to his house and-- and hang out with him. 425 00:23:46,754 --> 00:23:49,796 - ♪ Well, I finally listened to my mama ♪ 426 00:23:49,796 --> 00:23:52,087 ♪ Good people ♪ 427 00:23:52,087 --> 00:23:54,504 ♪ Then I would not have been here today ♪ 428 00:23:54,504 --> 00:23:57,754 - Um, you know, he-- he is the one to open the door. 429 00:23:57,754 --> 00:24:00,462 You know Doc is a-- he is a legend, you know. 430 00:24:00,462 --> 00:24:03,920 I went with him that evening and, uh-- 431 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,754 and sold merch for him. 432 00:24:05,754 --> 00:24:08,004 But when I watched him play, 433 00:24:08,004 --> 00:24:10,087 everything I thought about 434 00:24:10,087 --> 00:24:12,879 what it took to have a powerful music performance 435 00:24:12,879 --> 00:24:14,337 just went out the window. 436 00:24:14,337 --> 00:24:16,129 Because I think at that time, 437 00:24:16,129 --> 00:24:20,671 I--I--I thought volume and-- and power were synonymous. 438 00:24:20,671 --> 00:24:22,879 I--I--I felt that in order to have a-- 439 00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:25,671 a powerful performance musically, you had to be loud, 440 00:24:25,671 --> 00:24:28,546 and I realized that night and every other time 441 00:24:28,546 --> 00:24:31,212 I ever saw Doc, which was many times, 442 00:24:31,212 --> 00:24:33,421 that power comes from character. 443 00:24:35,462 --> 00:24:38,629 - I don't ever fail to look back across there 444 00:24:38,629 --> 00:24:40,962 and appreciate what we got. 445 00:24:43,087 --> 00:24:45,754 - You and be both, Pops. 446 00:24:45,754 --> 00:24:47,462 A lot changed that night and I-- 447 00:24:47,462 --> 00:24:49,629 I realized what could come of a-- 448 00:24:49,629 --> 00:24:52,671 somebody just playing an acoustic guitar and singing. 449 00:24:52,671 --> 00:24:54,962 Just threw the-- the curtains open 450 00:24:54,962 --> 00:24:57,129 and just let all the sunlight in on what--what it-- 451 00:24:57,129 --> 00:24:58,962 what it could look like. 452 00:24:58,962 --> 00:25:02,045 You know, with music like this, whatever this music is, 453 00:25:02,045 --> 00:25:05,129 you--you can't hide behind the volume. 454 00:25:11,254 --> 00:25:18,337 ♪ ♪ 455 00:25:32,504 --> 00:25:37,004 ♪ I wish I was a tune ♪ 456 00:25:37,004 --> 00:25:41,879 ♪ You sang in your kitchen ♪ 457 00:25:41,879 --> 00:25:45,838 ♪ Putting your groceries away ♪ 458 00:25:45,838 --> 00:25:51,129 ♪ And washing your dishes ♪ 459 00:25:53,588 --> 00:25:55,004 Gonna put on-- 460 00:25:55,004 --> 00:25:57,004 ♪ Putting your groceries away ♪ 461 00:25:57,004 --> 00:26:02,379 ♪ Washing the dishes ♪ 462 00:26:05,462 --> 00:26:10,421 ♪ ♪ 463 00:26:10,421 --> 00:26:13,462 ♪ Then when we were done... ♪ 464 00:26:13,462 --> 00:26:15,504 - Just turn me on. - Yeah. 465 00:26:15,504 --> 00:26:17,879 Whatever. "Turn me down." 466 00:26:17,879 --> 00:26:19,379 And then, like, I was thinking, 467 00:26:19,379 --> 00:26:23,087 ♪ If I get in-- ♪ 468 00:26:23,087 --> 00:26:28,254 ♪ But if I get too close ♪ 469 00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:31,129 That's all I got. 470 00:26:31,129 --> 00:26:34,087 A simple love song but, sort of, like, 471 00:26:34,087 --> 00:26:36,129 some hesitation in it, you know, or, like, 472 00:26:36,129 --> 00:26:40,379 it's really that's the theme, hesitation is a-- 473 00:26:40,379 --> 00:26:45,004 I wish I could be involved with you but not-- 474 00:26:45,004 --> 00:26:46,462 but not hinder you. 475 00:26:46,462 --> 00:26:49,087 Wish I could be in your life or in-- 476 00:26:49,087 --> 00:26:51,421 somehow integrated into your life. 477 00:26:54,421 --> 00:27:01,546 ♪ ♪ 478 00:27:04,254 --> 00:27:07,087 - ♪ I wish I was a sweater ♪ 479 00:27:07,087 --> 00:27:12,337 ♪ Wrapped around your hips ♪ 480 00:27:12,337 --> 00:27:15,671 ♪ And when the cold wind blow--blew ♪ 481 00:27:15,671 --> 00:27:18,421 ♪ Into me you would slip ♪ 482 00:27:18,421 --> 00:27:20,962 ♪ ♪ 483 00:27:20,962 --> 00:27:24,212 ♪ And when the sun came back ♪ 484 00:27:24,212 --> 00:27:29,045 ♪ You would hang me up ♪ 485 00:27:29,045 --> 00:27:31,879 ♪ And I'd watch you undress ♪ 486 00:27:31,879 --> 00:27:33,296 ♪ From the closet ♪ 487 00:27:33,296 --> 00:27:35,087 ♪ Deeply something in love ♪ 488 00:27:35,087 --> 00:27:37,920 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 489 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,379 I like the idea of it. 490 00:27:39,379 --> 00:27:41,421 I was thinking about that--you'd say, 491 00:27:41,421 --> 00:27:43,129 "I watch it from the bed--" 492 00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:44,796 Like, wherever she puts it, but if she hangs it up, 493 00:27:44,796 --> 00:27:46,796 and he watches from the closet, like-- 494 00:27:46,796 --> 00:27:51,254 because it has to be put away again happily. 495 00:27:51,254 --> 00:27:54,421 So I think that's a good structure and--so that's three. 496 00:27:54,421 --> 00:27:57,212 - Okay. 497 00:27:57,212 --> 00:27:59,838 I think, uh, we maybe need another verse 498 00:27:59,838 --> 00:28:03,671 that's maybe not an analogy verse. 499 00:28:06,170 --> 00:28:08,045 - Yeah, just one that's not metaphorical. 500 00:28:08,045 --> 00:28:11,212 ♪ ♪ 501 00:28:11,212 --> 00:28:13,254 - Another approach could be going through 502 00:28:13,254 --> 00:28:15,170 and saying, "I don't wish I was a candle. 503 00:28:15,170 --> 00:28:18,504 "I don't wish I was a sweater. I don't wish I was a song. 504 00:28:18,504 --> 00:28:21,629 "I am this and this is where I need to be 505 00:28:21,629 --> 00:28:24,713 and there's nothing stopping him." 506 00:28:24,713 --> 00:28:28,754 - ♪ I'm not a song ♪ 507 00:28:28,754 --> 00:28:32,170 ♪ I'm not a sweater ♪ 508 00:28:32,170 --> 00:28:34,713 ♪ Hmm I'm not a tune ♪ 509 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:37,796 - I'm not-- 510 00:28:37,796 --> 00:28:40,879 - I'm something better. - ♪ I'm something better ♪ 511 00:28:40,879 --> 00:28:43,129 ♪ ♪ 512 00:28:43,129 --> 00:28:45,879 - ♪ I'm in love ♪ - Yeah. 513 00:28:45,879 --> 00:28:47,879 - It's the most amazing thing I've ever seen. 514 00:28:47,879 --> 00:28:51,004 ♪ I'm gonna let it roll ♪ - Yeah, write that. 515 00:28:51,004 --> 00:28:53,004 - And you're gonna see all the bad things and... 516 00:28:53,004 --> 00:28:54,754 - Write it, write that. - Yeah. 517 00:28:54,754 --> 00:28:58,212 - What about I'm your sweetheart writing a letter 518 00:28:58,212 --> 00:29:01,713 or just maybe the song is the letter? 519 00:29:01,713 --> 00:29:03,629 I'm thinking the whole song becomes a-- 520 00:29:03,629 --> 00:29:06,504 'cause the whole song is to her, to a person. 521 00:29:06,504 --> 00:29:07,962 - Like... 522 00:29:07,962 --> 00:29:09,838 ♪ Just take it, would you read it ♪ 523 00:29:09,838 --> 00:29:11,879 ♪ Is there something, believe it ♪ 524 00:29:11,879 --> 00:29:15,045 ♪ I love you, I'm sorry ♪ 525 00:29:15,045 --> 00:29:17,879 Like apologizing for-- I'm sorry I love you, 526 00:29:17,879 --> 00:29:20,421 because I'm so drawn in it and it ends like that, 527 00:29:20,421 --> 00:29:22,462 kind of almost ends-- - It's great. 528 00:29:22,462 --> 00:29:23,671 - Yeah. 529 00:29:26,754 --> 00:29:30,838 ♪ ♪ 530 00:29:30,838 --> 00:29:34,713 ♪ I'm not a song ♪ 531 00:29:34,713 --> 00:29:39,170 ♪ I'm not a sweater ♪ 532 00:29:39,170 --> 00:29:42,920 ♪ I'm not a fire ♪ 533 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,920 ♪ I'm something better ♪ 534 00:29:48,004 --> 00:29:51,337 ♪ I'm a man in love ♪ 535 00:29:51,337 --> 00:29:53,879 ♪ Writing you a letter ♪ 536 00:29:53,879 --> 00:29:56,170 ♪ ♪ 537 00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:58,796 - ♪ Will you take it ♪ 538 00:29:58,796 --> 00:30:00,879 ♪ Will you keep it ♪ 539 00:30:00,879 --> 00:30:02,962 ♪ Will you read it ♪ 540 00:30:02,962 --> 00:30:04,754 ♪ Believe it ♪ 541 00:30:04,754 --> 00:30:07,045 ♪ I love you ♪ 542 00:30:07,045 --> 00:30:09,337 ♪ I'm sorry ♪ 543 00:30:13,546 --> 00:30:17,212 - Thank you very much. That's a new one, y'all. 544 00:30:17,212 --> 00:30:18,671 Thanks for letting us share it with you. 545 00:30:18,671 --> 00:30:20,588 I appreciate it. 546 00:30:31,546 --> 00:30:34,129 What? 547 00:30:34,129 --> 00:30:36,504 - Yeah. 548 00:30:36,504 --> 00:30:39,713 Where are you? - In the band room. 549 00:30:42,004 --> 00:30:43,754 - I can't get this thing open, man. 550 00:30:43,754 --> 00:30:46,421 No matter how hard I try. How strong is your grip? 551 00:30:46,421 --> 00:30:48,838 - Pretty good. Want me to give it a try? 552 00:30:48,838 --> 00:30:50,671 - Yeah. Gonna give it a little help, 553 00:30:50,671 --> 00:30:54,212 so I can say that because I helped you. 554 00:30:54,212 --> 00:30:57,337 I mean, it's on there like nobody's business. 555 00:30:57,337 --> 00:30:59,879 - It's probably gonna explode. 556 00:31:05,796 --> 00:31:09,170 - When he was in college and I was in high school, 557 00:31:09,170 --> 00:31:12,838 I would record songs or ideas on a cassette tape 558 00:31:12,838 --> 00:31:15,379 and then mail them to him in a--in an envelope. 559 00:31:15,379 --> 00:31:17,838 He would, maybe, try to write the next part 560 00:31:17,838 --> 00:31:19,962 or write the next part. 561 00:31:19,962 --> 00:31:22,671 - ♪ There is a key ♪ 562 00:31:22,671 --> 00:31:24,838 ♪ There is the light ♪ 563 00:31:24,838 --> 00:31:27,504 ♪ There's some times that I catch it ♪ 564 00:31:27,504 --> 00:31:30,045 ♪ Maybe last through the night ♪ 565 00:31:30,045 --> 00:31:32,462 There were a couple songs that we wrote back and forth. 566 00:31:32,462 --> 00:31:35,087 We'd leave messages on each other's answering machines 567 00:31:35,087 --> 00:31:38,421 and then it slowly became the band Nemo. 568 00:31:40,546 --> 00:31:42,629 - I think what we were attempting at that time 569 00:31:42,629 --> 00:31:45,045 was something closer to like At the Drive In. 570 00:31:45,045 --> 00:31:47,254 - ♪ Yeah ♪ 571 00:31:47,254 --> 00:31:50,462 - We were just still hung up on two electric guitars, 572 00:31:50,462 --> 00:31:55,212 electric bass, drums, lead singer, loud, aggressive. 573 00:31:55,212 --> 00:31:57,588 - Those ultra-dynamics, singing, screaming, 574 00:31:57,588 --> 00:32:01,962 all kinds of stuff but-- but definitely heavy rock. 575 00:32:01,962 --> 00:32:03,754 ♪ ♪ 576 00:32:03,754 --> 00:32:05,754 - I know it was painful. It was physically painful. 577 00:32:05,754 --> 00:32:07,671 It was draining and it was, uh-- 578 00:32:07,671 --> 00:32:11,629 it was becoming maybe insincere to continue that. 579 00:32:11,629 --> 00:32:15,170 - ♪ A lot of moving, a lot of rolling ♪ 580 00:32:15,170 --> 00:32:16,920 ♪ A lot of driving... ♪ 581 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,045 - As we did that, Seth and John Twomey and I, 582 00:32:19,045 --> 00:32:22,421 would play some old time songs or some old country songs. 583 00:32:22,421 --> 00:32:25,588 But Seth and I were--were beginning to commit to that. 584 00:32:25,588 --> 00:32:27,462 - And it--it felt-- it felt natural. 585 00:32:27,462 --> 00:32:29,588 I don't know if it came natural, but it felt natural. 586 00:32:29,588 --> 00:32:33,462 And it, it felt--it felt like--like we were starting 587 00:32:33,462 --> 00:32:36,212 to do the thing that really made sense for us to do. 588 00:32:36,212 --> 00:32:38,170 - Every week, we were more interested 589 00:32:38,170 --> 00:32:43,796 and more interested and when the band, uh, stopped, we-- 590 00:32:43,796 --> 00:32:47,462 we all of a sudden felt this huge relief. 591 00:32:47,462 --> 00:32:49,379 - I've always loved this acoustic music. 592 00:32:49,379 --> 00:32:51,671 We're making some okay sounds when we sing together, 593 00:32:51,671 --> 00:32:53,838 with just an acoustic guitar and a banjo, whatever, 594 00:32:53,838 --> 00:32:56,671 so let's just simplify the hell out of this. 595 00:32:56,671 --> 00:32:59,629 So we just went--just down to just me and Scott 596 00:32:59,629 --> 00:33:03,629 and slowly became, uh, the Avett Brothers. 597 00:33:03,629 --> 00:33:07,004 And starting like that with someone who I already trusted 598 00:33:07,004 --> 00:33:09,170 more than anybody in the world is-- 599 00:33:09,170 --> 00:33:12,087 it's like the most solid beginning 600 00:33:12,087 --> 00:33:14,045 you could have for a band. 601 00:33:14,045 --> 00:33:16,671 If there's anyone that I wanna start a band with it was Scott. 602 00:33:16,671 --> 00:33:18,879 And whatever's gonna happen afterward, 603 00:33:18,879 --> 00:33:20,337 we'll figure that out later. 604 00:33:20,337 --> 00:33:22,212 - It was just the two of us and it felt 605 00:33:22,212 --> 00:33:24,713 very, very good and very strong 606 00:33:24,713 --> 00:33:26,379 and it was a great foundation. 607 00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:28,504 From there, it moved into the--that's where-- 608 00:33:28,504 --> 00:33:32,962 when we met Bob and it moved into the next step. 609 00:33:35,129 --> 00:33:38,504 - Good morning. - Good morning. 610 00:33:40,129 --> 00:33:42,337 - He quit the band. 611 00:33:42,337 --> 00:33:44,004 - Well, yeah, but... 612 00:33:44,004 --> 00:33:45,920 - Oh, he's rejoined. - There he is. 613 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,838 - Hi. 614 00:33:47,838 --> 00:33:49,671 - Bob quit the band and now he's-- 615 00:33:49,671 --> 00:33:52,379 - I did, but, uh, I couldn't get a job anywhere else, 616 00:33:52,379 --> 00:33:54,671 so I guess I'll come back. 617 00:33:54,671 --> 00:33:57,671 - At some point, we decided we really need some low end here. 618 00:33:57,671 --> 00:34:00,337 We need a standup bass player. We need, you know-- 619 00:34:00,337 --> 00:34:02,671 We need the sound, but we really need the look. 620 00:34:02,671 --> 00:34:05,504 - It was so old-timey and so rich 621 00:34:05,504 --> 00:34:08,212 and full of soul, and we knew if we wanted 622 00:34:08,212 --> 00:34:11,129 to continue on with that... 623 00:34:11,129 --> 00:34:13,713 just for a good platform, we needed a standup bass player. 624 00:34:13,713 --> 00:34:15,379 - Started asking musicians we know, 625 00:34:15,379 --> 00:34:16,754 "Do you know anybody who plays standup bass?" 626 00:34:16,754 --> 00:34:18,504 - I was going to school 627 00:34:18,504 --> 00:34:20,879 at Winthrop University in Rock Hill, South Carolina, 628 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:23,379 and I was in a jazz guitar program, 629 00:34:23,379 --> 00:34:25,713 but I had just started playing upright bass. 630 00:34:25,713 --> 00:34:27,087 - We met at the Media Play parking lot, 631 00:34:27,087 --> 00:34:28,796 which is kind of like Best Buy. 632 00:34:28,796 --> 00:34:30,504 It's closed down now, but it was over by-- 633 00:34:30,504 --> 00:34:31,962 by the school that I went to, UNC Charlotte. 634 00:34:31,962 --> 00:34:33,546 - I got my bass out 635 00:34:33,546 --> 00:34:35,713 and I'm waiting for somebody to show up, 636 00:34:35,713 --> 00:34:37,546 and Scott and Seth pull up 637 00:34:37,546 --> 00:34:40,588 in a gold Ford Taurus station wagon and get out, 638 00:34:40,588 --> 00:34:42,713 and they're wearing, like, flannel shirts 639 00:34:42,713 --> 00:34:44,504 and, like, cut-off shorts, 640 00:34:44,504 --> 00:34:48,129 and they've got long hair and weird facial hair and... 641 00:34:48,129 --> 00:34:49,920 - We just played in this parking lot because I-- 642 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,337 you know, as far as I was concerned, 643 00:34:51,337 --> 00:34:53,045 someone might come and see us. 644 00:34:53,045 --> 00:34:54,962 And an opportunity to, uh, play for some people. 645 00:34:54,962 --> 00:34:57,504 Maybe make some change or meet somebody, 646 00:34:57,504 --> 00:34:59,254 and so let's just do-- we're used to-- 647 00:34:59,254 --> 00:35:00,879 we do this all the time anyway. 648 00:35:00,879 --> 00:35:03,629 - And we just started playing tunes like, 649 00:35:03,629 --> 00:35:05,588 "Going Down The Road Feeling Bad," 650 00:35:05,588 --> 00:35:08,754 uh, "Worried Man," like traditional folk songs, 651 00:35:08,754 --> 00:35:11,212 Woody Guthrie, um, 652 00:35:11,212 --> 00:35:13,713 Ramblin' Jack Elliot type songs. 653 00:35:13,713 --> 00:35:17,754 ♪ ♪ 654 00:35:17,754 --> 00:35:18,879 - Oh, yeah. 655 00:35:18,879 --> 00:35:20,588 - And they were like, 656 00:35:20,588 --> 00:35:22,462 "Okay. Well, let's go over an original song." 657 00:35:22,462 --> 00:35:25,129 And they showed me actually the song, um, 658 00:35:25,129 --> 00:35:27,879 "Kind of in Love," and it was-- 659 00:35:27,879 --> 00:35:29,421 immediately stood out 660 00:35:29,421 --> 00:35:31,212 because it had a lot of chords in it. 661 00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:35,296 - ♪ Why do you amaze me ♪ 662 00:35:35,296 --> 00:35:39,129 ♪ Why do you amaze me ♪ 663 00:35:39,129 --> 00:35:42,337 ♪ Why do you fool me into thinking ♪ 664 00:35:42,337 --> 00:35:46,713 ♪ That I'm kind of in love with you ♪ 665 00:35:46,713 --> 00:35:48,045 - And then that was it. 666 00:35:48,045 --> 00:35:50,004 "Okay. We'll talk to you later." 667 00:35:50,004 --> 00:35:52,629 - We played several songs and-- 668 00:35:52,629 --> 00:35:54,713 and so we left and Seth and I talked on the way home. 669 00:35:54,713 --> 00:35:57,129 He was like, "You know, seems good to me." 670 00:35:57,129 --> 00:35:59,796 And later we found out that he had probably played bass, 671 00:35:59,796 --> 00:36:01,337 like standup bass, a couple of times. 672 00:36:01,337 --> 00:36:03,087 Maybe played around on it. 673 00:36:03,087 --> 00:36:05,379 - I mean, the guy had barely touched the instrument. 674 00:36:05,379 --> 00:36:07,129 I mean, I didn't find this out for, 675 00:36:07,129 --> 00:36:10,254 like, probably for a good four, five, six years 676 00:36:10,254 --> 00:36:12,045 that it was a brand-new instrument to him. 677 00:36:12,045 --> 00:36:14,129 Of course, we had no experience whatsoever 678 00:36:14,129 --> 00:36:15,796 playing with a standup bass player. 679 00:36:15,796 --> 00:36:17,337 So just the fact that he was standing there 680 00:36:17,337 --> 00:36:19,129 with a standup bass was-- was, you know, 681 00:36:19,129 --> 00:36:20,296 convincing enough for us. 682 00:36:20,296 --> 00:36:22,170 We're like, "All right." 683 00:36:22,170 --> 00:36:24,504 - I guess Seth and I just didn't really know what a-- 684 00:36:24,504 --> 00:36:26,170 what a seasoned bass player 685 00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:28,170 or a con bass player sounded like, 686 00:36:28,170 --> 00:36:30,004 but it was great because he was on the same level as us. 687 00:36:30,004 --> 00:36:32,087 We were all in the same page. 688 00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:34,838 - Oh, God. 689 00:36:34,838 --> 00:36:38,504 - This is listed on Wikipedia as one of our records. 690 00:36:38,504 --> 00:36:40,588 So people can find this and listen to it. 691 00:36:40,588 --> 00:36:42,462 - Well, John sounds pretty good right there. 692 00:36:42,462 --> 00:36:44,421 - John does. 693 00:36:44,421 --> 00:36:47,087 ♪ ♪ 694 00:36:47,087 --> 00:36:50,920 ♪ 695 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,713 ♪ Why do you amaze me ♪ 696 00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:57,713 - ♪ Why do you fool me into thinking ♪ 697 00:36:57,713 --> 00:37:00,754 ♪ That I'm kind of in love with you? ♪ 698 00:37:00,754 --> 00:37:02,045 - Oh, good God. 699 00:37:02,045 --> 00:37:03,462 - You want to sing it or-- 700 00:37:03,462 --> 00:37:05,379 - Yeah, I can sing first. - Okay. 701 00:37:05,379 --> 00:37:07,629 - Now that I'm coming off of that I'm ready for it. 702 00:37:07,629 --> 00:37:09,754 - You're all dialed in, you're all tuned up. 703 00:37:09,754 --> 00:37:11,379 - Oh, God, I'm dialed in. 704 00:37:11,379 --> 00:37:13,629 - At first, when it was just me and Scott, 705 00:37:13,629 --> 00:37:17,588 we were mainly just playing without anyone asking. 706 00:37:17,588 --> 00:37:21,962 We didn't really have so much in the way of proper bookings. 707 00:37:21,962 --> 00:37:25,713 But when Bob came on, he started booking. 708 00:37:25,713 --> 00:37:28,379 He booked the first tour, you know, basically by himself. 709 00:37:28,379 --> 00:37:30,129 - This band actually wouldn't even 710 00:37:30,129 --> 00:37:32,087 have gone on tour if Bob hadn't said, 711 00:37:32,087 --> 00:37:33,754 "We got to get out of North Carolina." 712 00:37:33,754 --> 00:37:35,546 Because we're just hillbillies. 713 00:37:35,546 --> 00:37:37,421 We just--we were self-centered hillbillies 714 00:37:37,421 --> 00:37:41,212 who thought the world was gonna either come to us or not. 715 00:37:41,212 --> 00:37:43,087 And either way, they were missing out. 716 00:37:43,087 --> 00:37:46,296 And Bob was like, "Are we gonna go play for anybody? 717 00:37:46,296 --> 00:37:49,170 "Other than, uh, you know, Cabarrus County 718 00:37:49,170 --> 00:37:50,838 "or Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. 719 00:37:50,838 --> 00:37:52,254 "What is-- what's going on here? 720 00:37:52,254 --> 00:37:53,713 Do you guys wanna go anywhere?" 721 00:37:53,713 --> 00:37:55,254 And he took us. 722 00:38:01,337 --> 00:38:05,129 ♪ ♪ 723 00:38:05,129 --> 00:38:06,754 - ♪ Well, I've been locking myself up ♪ 724 00:38:06,754 --> 00:38:08,588 ♪ In my house for some time now ♪ 725 00:38:08,588 --> 00:38:10,212 ♪ Reading and writing and reading and thinking ♪ 726 00:38:10,212 --> 00:38:11,796 ♪ And searching for reasons ♪ 727 00:38:11,796 --> 00:38:13,379 ♪ And missing the seasons, the autumn ♪ 728 00:38:13,379 --> 00:38:15,170 ♪ The spring, the summer, the snow ♪ 729 00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:16,796 ♪ The record will stop and the record will go ♪ 730 00:38:16,796 --> 00:38:18,588 ♪ Latches latched the windows down ♪ 731 00:38:18,588 --> 00:38:20,379 ♪ The dog coming in and the dog going out ♪ 732 00:38:20,379 --> 00:38:22,170 ♪ Up with caffeine and down with a shot ♪ 733 00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:23,962 ♪ Constantly worried about what I've got ♪ 734 00:38:23,962 --> 00:38:25,796 ♪ Distracting my work but I can't make a stop ♪ 735 00:38:25,796 --> 00:38:27,754 ♪ And my confidence on and my confidence off ♪ 736 00:38:27,754 --> 00:38:29,629 ♪ And I sink to the bottom and rise to the top ♪ 737 00:38:29,629 --> 00:38:31,254 ♪ And I think to myself that I do this a lot ♪ 738 00:38:31,254 --> 00:38:32,962 ♪ World outside just goes, it goes ♪ 739 00:38:32,962 --> 00:38:34,920 ♪ It goes, it goes, it goes, it goes ♪ 740 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,379 ♪ And witness it all from the blinds of my window ♪ 741 00:38:38,379 --> 00:38:41,796 ♪ I'm a little nervous ♪ 742 00:38:41,796 --> 00:38:44,629 ♪ 'Bout what you'll think when you... ♪ 743 00:38:44,629 --> 00:38:47,879 - Maybe like Friday night we'd be, you know, somewhere, 744 00:38:47,879 --> 00:38:49,920 and we would have-- 745 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,254 we'd be playing like 10:00 and we would go to, like, 746 00:38:52,254 --> 00:38:54,004 a Ruby Tuesdays or some kind of like... 747 00:38:54,004 --> 00:38:55,796 - Chili's or something. 748 00:38:55,796 --> 00:38:57,629 - Chili's or something and there'd be all these, like, 749 00:38:57,629 --> 00:39:00,421 guys there with their girlfriends or their wives, 750 00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:02,004 and they're having their-- they were, like, 751 00:39:02,004 --> 00:39:03,838 out to dinner on Friday night. 752 00:39:03,838 --> 00:39:05,546 And we'd be, like, cold, 753 00:39:05,546 --> 00:39:08,337 and we're not gonna go on until 10:00 P.M. 754 00:39:08,337 --> 00:39:10,504 I remember, like, sitting, and Scott would be like, 755 00:39:10,504 --> 00:39:12,504 "Man, wouldn't it be great to be home. 756 00:39:12,504 --> 00:39:15,170 - They're all just living their lives, man. 757 00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:17,879 - ♪ Now I can't recall ♪ 758 00:39:17,879 --> 00:39:22,296 ♪ A time when we made the city ♪ 759 00:39:22,296 --> 00:39:25,254 It felt like I was saying without a radio hit 760 00:39:25,254 --> 00:39:27,671 there's just no telling where it's gonna go. 761 00:39:27,671 --> 00:39:30,004 We've never had a record that was massive marketing-wise 762 00:39:30,004 --> 00:39:31,629 and we're-- we've continued to grow. 763 00:39:31,629 --> 00:39:35,379 We've never shrunk. We've always grown. 764 00:39:35,379 --> 00:39:37,379 So I believe that could probably keep going. 765 00:39:37,379 --> 00:39:39,254 The Grateful Dead did it. 766 00:39:39,254 --> 00:39:41,087 - I did--I did expect us to have a hit though, I really d-- 767 00:39:41,087 --> 00:39:42,920 I really did. A few-- 768 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,504 There's been quite a few times where I've been like, 769 00:39:44,504 --> 00:39:46,045 "Man, this is gonna be it." 770 00:39:46,045 --> 00:39:50,004 - ♪ Oh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in ♪ 771 00:39:50,004 --> 00:39:52,796 ♪ ♪ 772 00:39:52,796 --> 00:39:56,462 ♪ Are you aware the shape I'm in ♪ 773 00:39:56,462 --> 00:39:58,838 ♪ ♪ 774 00:39:58,838 --> 00:40:02,462 ♪ My hands they shake, my head it spins ♪ 775 00:40:02,462 --> 00:40:04,629 - Lord, it spins. 776 00:40:04,629 --> 00:40:08,754 - ♪ Oh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in ♪ 777 00:40:08,754 --> 00:40:11,879 ♪ ♪ 778 00:40:30,588 --> 00:40:34,087 - Gary, I'll see you on, uh... 779 00:40:34,087 --> 00:40:35,629 Fri--Saturday. - Saturday. 780 00:40:35,629 --> 00:40:38,045 Okay, my friend. Have a good one. 781 00:40:38,045 --> 00:40:39,254 - All right. 782 00:40:39,254 --> 00:40:41,379 - Holler if you need me. 783 00:40:53,796 --> 00:40:55,879 - Hmm. 784 00:41:33,796 --> 00:41:37,212 - Da-da. 785 00:41:39,462 --> 00:41:42,962 Da-da. 786 00:41:42,962 --> 00:41:44,920 - All right. 787 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,379 It's a perfect little family. - You smell like the bus. 788 00:41:47,379 --> 00:41:50,087 I smell like the bus? 789 00:41:50,087 --> 00:41:52,296 - And you just--and your mouth smells like gum. 790 00:41:54,671 --> 00:41:56,170 - Hi. 791 00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:58,170 - It's hard to make sure you kiss, like, everybody 792 00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:00,838 at the same time 'cause if you kiss anybody first-- 793 00:42:00,838 --> 00:42:02,212 - Somebody gets upset. 794 00:42:02,212 --> 00:42:04,004 - You never know, Mom might get upset. 795 00:42:04,004 --> 00:42:07,462 Eleanor might get upset. Max might get upset. 796 00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:14,170 You smell like tractor. 797 00:42:14,170 --> 00:42:17,962 I smell like tractor? 798 00:42:17,962 --> 00:42:20,838 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 799 00:42:31,796 --> 00:42:36,087 - If I'm here, I'll just basically do breakfast 800 00:42:36,087 --> 00:42:38,629 and dinner as much as I can. 801 00:42:38,629 --> 00:42:41,045 Once we get apart, like when I go, 802 00:42:41,045 --> 00:42:43,254 I'm getting to dislike it more and more, 803 00:42:43,254 --> 00:42:47,129 but once I'm here I don't wanna go anywhere, 804 00:42:47,129 --> 00:42:49,296 but I say that I've always been that way, 805 00:42:49,296 --> 00:42:52,212 and I probably told you that before, I don't-- 806 00:42:52,212 --> 00:42:54,004 I start thinking that I don't-- 807 00:42:54,004 --> 00:42:58,546 I don't wanna ever travel anywhere, that's not true. 808 00:42:58,546 --> 00:43:00,838 Anytime I'm leading up to like a trip, 809 00:43:00,838 --> 00:43:03,337 like to Malibu or like a big tour. 810 00:43:03,337 --> 00:43:05,920 I'm just like, "Oh, oh, I guess I just don't 811 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,879 ever wanna leave home," and then I, uh, you know, 812 00:43:08,879 --> 00:43:12,170 then I get in Oslo and I'm, like, "Oh, okay." 813 00:43:12,170 --> 00:43:14,129 You know, I'm just taking in so much 814 00:43:14,129 --> 00:43:17,713 and I'm--I'm, uh, I'm living, you know? 815 00:43:17,713 --> 00:43:19,754 And I'm bringing that back to, 816 00:43:19,754 --> 00:43:23,254 uh, to people that, uh, that it matters to. 817 00:43:27,629 --> 00:43:28,962 There's Eleanor coming in. 818 00:43:31,588 --> 00:43:33,754 Try that. 819 00:43:33,754 --> 00:43:35,254 - The six year old here. - Six years old. 820 00:43:35,254 --> 00:43:37,588 - It's official. It's official. 821 00:43:40,129 --> 00:43:42,254 - Six years old. 822 00:43:47,212 --> 00:43:49,212 I think Sarah and I are-- 823 00:43:49,212 --> 00:43:50,754 it's--it's kind of unspoken, 824 00:43:50,754 --> 00:43:53,421 but we, uh--we both depend on each other 825 00:43:53,421 --> 00:43:56,962 to do what we do for the family. 826 00:43:56,962 --> 00:43:59,796 - You know, he wouldn't be who he is 827 00:43:59,796 --> 00:44:02,337 if he wasn't doing what he loved to do. 828 00:44:02,337 --> 00:44:08,588 So therefore we just, you know, make it up as we go. 829 00:44:08,588 --> 00:44:11,129 So... - Yeah, that's true. 830 00:44:17,588 --> 00:44:20,671 - Six years old. 831 00:44:20,671 --> 00:44:23,087 Our first and only little girl. 832 00:44:23,087 --> 00:44:24,462 - Mm-hmm. 833 00:44:26,337 --> 00:44:29,796 - I'm an only child, so it's pretty new for me, 834 00:44:29,796 --> 00:44:31,671 because at my house growing up it was very, 835 00:44:31,671 --> 00:44:34,170 you know, very quiet, everything was very calm. 836 00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:37,170 You know, we sit down for a family meal and it was just, 837 00:44:37,170 --> 00:44:39,796 you know, still and, you know, calm. 838 00:44:39,796 --> 00:44:41,713 And when I first met Scott and going to his house 839 00:44:41,713 --> 00:44:44,588 and the whole family comes and then everybody's kids come 840 00:44:44,588 --> 00:44:48,838 and it's--it's-- it's chaos and it's great. 841 00:44:48,838 --> 00:44:50,337 - There's Uncle Seth! 842 00:44:58,045 --> 00:45:05,170 ♪ ♪ 843 00:45:10,337 --> 00:45:11,962 - So sick of the stereotypes 844 00:45:11,962 --> 00:45:14,671 about North Carolina barbecue. 845 00:45:14,671 --> 00:45:18,045 It's all we ever eat, right? 846 00:45:18,045 --> 00:45:20,212 Barbecue. 847 00:45:20,212 --> 00:45:22,170 ♪ ♪ 848 00:45:22,170 --> 00:45:24,379 Ahhh! 849 00:45:28,045 --> 00:45:30,713 Max, what do you think we'll name the new baby brother? 850 00:45:32,254 --> 00:45:35,379 - ♪ I don't even need to see your face ♪ 851 00:45:35,379 --> 00:45:39,087 - It is interesting that you spend so much time together, 852 00:45:39,087 --> 00:45:42,629 but time together with the entire band and crew 853 00:45:42,629 --> 00:45:45,546 every day and night is not the same as--as this. 854 00:45:45,546 --> 00:45:48,421 We don't enjoy the same kind of, uh, communication 855 00:45:48,421 --> 00:45:52,296 we get at home that we, you know, wanna wrap in. 856 00:45:52,296 --> 00:45:54,045 - No matter what we think, you know, 857 00:45:54,045 --> 00:45:55,546 the core of this is us spending 858 00:45:55,546 --> 00:45:57,254 natural time together. 859 00:45:57,254 --> 00:46:00,254 Ahh! 860 00:46:00,254 --> 00:46:03,504 - Oh, yeah, cupcakes. Max, cupcake. 861 00:46:03,504 --> 00:46:07,129 all: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 862 00:46:07,129 --> 00:46:10,713 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 863 00:46:10,713 --> 00:46:12,087 ♪ Happy birthday... ♪ 864 00:46:12,087 --> 00:46:14,129 - If we're not connecting, 865 00:46:14,129 --> 00:46:16,796 if we're not aware what's going on in each other's lives 866 00:46:16,796 --> 00:46:20,254 and not keeping our joking and everything going, 867 00:46:20,254 --> 00:46:22,588 then the--then the music side suffers. 868 00:46:22,588 --> 00:46:24,379 It's a weird thing. 869 00:46:24,379 --> 00:46:26,045 It's not something that I would've predicted really. 870 00:46:26,045 --> 00:46:27,796 - Daddy, I wanna go back outside. 871 00:46:27,796 --> 00:46:29,713 - Okay go, go. 872 00:46:31,546 --> 00:46:34,087 - I'm going back out! 873 00:46:34,087 --> 00:46:36,754 And here I come! 874 00:46:38,337 --> 00:46:41,004 - A little Avett. 875 00:47:01,713 --> 00:47:03,170 - Good morning. - Good morning. 876 00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:05,588 - First day. 877 00:47:05,588 --> 00:47:07,421 How you feeling? 878 00:47:07,421 --> 00:47:10,129 - Great. 879 00:47:29,962 --> 00:47:32,129 - Sweet. 880 00:47:32,129 --> 00:47:34,962 - Good, good. That's good to hear. 881 00:47:34,962 --> 00:47:36,462 - This is the place is living, huh? 882 00:47:36,462 --> 00:47:37,671 - Yeah, pretty much. How's it going? 883 00:47:37,671 --> 00:47:39,212 - Good, man. 884 00:47:39,212 --> 00:47:40,920 - Yeah, Monday. 885 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,212 - Scott and Seth and I were working together 886 00:47:43,212 --> 00:47:45,504 cleaning carpet for Bird's Carpet 887 00:47:45,504 --> 00:47:47,920 and Floor Services in Concord, North Carolina. 888 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,337 They were on their first tour in 2002, and that was, like, 889 00:47:50,337 --> 00:47:53,713 uh, a month-long tour, and I wasn't on that one, 890 00:47:53,713 --> 00:47:56,129 but when they got back from it, we were working together, 891 00:47:56,129 --> 00:47:57,879 and so I, you know, I'd heard all about it. 892 00:47:57,879 --> 00:47:59,754 I just graduated from college and Scott said, 893 00:47:59,754 --> 00:48:01,588 you know, as I was talking to him I was like, 894 00:48:01,588 --> 00:48:03,296 "I don't really know what I'm gonna do." 895 00:48:03,296 --> 00:48:04,962 He was like, "Well, just come work with us." 896 00:48:04,962 --> 00:48:07,879 And I was, like, "All right, what do I do?" 897 00:48:11,212 --> 00:48:13,087 So I was just kind of the fourth guy 898 00:48:13,087 --> 00:48:15,546 on the road, selling merchandise, setting up. 899 00:48:15,546 --> 00:48:18,379 It was just baby steps all the way, you know. 900 00:48:18,379 --> 00:48:20,004 It's just, um, each show would be 901 00:48:20,004 --> 00:48:21,629 kind of like a victory, you know. 902 00:48:21,629 --> 00:48:23,588 After the show, we'd be so excited about-- 903 00:48:23,588 --> 00:48:24,962 and it's kind of stepping stones from there. 904 00:48:24,962 --> 00:48:26,671 - ♪ Late at night ♪ 905 00:48:26,671 --> 00:48:28,713 - The world that we lived in was completely: 906 00:48:28,713 --> 00:48:30,671 go play, sell CDs. 907 00:48:30,671 --> 00:48:32,838 If we can mail some out, we might mail some out 908 00:48:32,838 --> 00:48:34,713 to some people, and they might send us a check, 909 00:48:34,713 --> 00:48:37,337 but cool, but we're making all the money in this realm, 910 00:48:37,337 --> 00:48:41,504 and that's where it lives and that's all we've invested in. 911 00:48:41,504 --> 00:48:43,629 - Must be you guys-- - Yeah, it is. 912 00:48:43,629 --> 00:48:45,671 It might be worth something one day. 913 00:48:47,754 --> 00:48:49,421 I guess a proper release came 914 00:48:49,421 --> 00:48:51,920 when Dolph, our manager, came along. 915 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,920 - And there was an article written 916 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,170 in our local paper about, uh, Scott and Seth. 917 00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:58,004 They had gone across country, 918 00:48:58,004 --> 00:49:00,920 on, like, a little musical journey of sorts. 919 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,421 Went to go see them play one night 920 00:49:02,421 --> 00:49:03,754 at a place called the Wine Vault. 921 00:49:08,045 --> 00:49:11,421 ♪ ♪ 922 00:49:13,504 --> 00:49:15,462 - I remember going home and telling my wife, 923 00:49:15,462 --> 00:49:19,588 like, I can't really describe what I just saw. 924 00:49:19,588 --> 00:49:24,337 It felt handmade, like it was a one-of-a-kind act. 925 00:49:25,962 --> 00:49:27,796 - Thank you. Good night. 926 00:49:27,796 --> 00:49:30,170 We are the Avett Brothers. Thanks for listening, y'all. 927 00:49:30,170 --> 00:49:33,504 - The whole thing was in shambles, strings breaking. 928 00:49:33,504 --> 00:49:35,962 They were unpolished at that time, uh, 929 00:49:35,962 --> 00:49:37,754 but that was the cool vibe about it. 930 00:49:37,754 --> 00:49:39,754 - Then that-- that grew from there 931 00:49:39,754 --> 00:49:42,462 because he was loosely considering starting a label. 932 00:49:42,462 --> 00:49:44,129 He wanted to do something with music. 933 00:49:44,129 --> 00:49:45,838 He just wanted to be involved in it somehow. 934 00:49:45,838 --> 00:49:47,546 All right, we're gonna sing the whole thing out here? 935 00:49:47,546 --> 00:49:48,920 Just in this? - Yeah. 936 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,421 - Cool. - Try it. 937 00:49:50,421 --> 00:49:52,629 - I guess so. 938 00:49:52,629 --> 00:49:54,296 - Cool. 939 00:49:54,296 --> 00:49:56,212 - I mean, I didn't have anything to fall back on, 940 00:49:56,212 --> 00:49:59,087 but I knew I would rather invest in them 941 00:49:59,087 --> 00:50:01,004 than anything else I could find. 942 00:50:01,004 --> 00:50:02,796 I mean, I just believe them. 943 00:50:02,796 --> 00:50:04,421 - So on that part we'd be like, uh... 944 00:50:04,421 --> 00:50:05,754 ♪ You say you look funny ♪ 945 00:50:05,754 --> 00:50:07,337 ♪ I say you're a star ♪ 946 00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:09,671 ♪ I say whatever you think you are ♪ 947 00:50:09,671 --> 00:50:12,170 ♪ Watch the naysayers fall right in line ♪ 948 00:50:12,170 --> 00:50:13,879 ♪ If believe that they'll say ♪ 949 00:50:13,879 --> 00:50:17,920 ♪ She's so pretty, he is so fine ♪ 950 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,920 ♪ There ain't no man can save me ♪ 951 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,629 ♪ There ain't no man can enslave me ♪ 952 00:50:23,629 --> 00:50:25,296 ♪ Ain't no man or men ♪ 953 00:50:25,296 --> 00:50:29,379 ♪ That can change the shape my soul is in ♪ 954 00:50:29,379 --> 00:50:33,045 ♪ There ain't nobody here who can cause me pain ♪ 955 00:50:33,045 --> 00:50:39,462 ♪ Or raise my fear 'cause I got only love to share ♪ 956 00:50:39,462 --> 00:50:41,129 ♪ If you're looking for truth ♪ 957 00:50:41,129 --> 00:50:43,170 ♪ I'm proof you'll find it there ♪ 958 00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:50,337 ♪ ♪ 959 00:50:52,379 --> 00:50:53,879 - Yeah. 960 00:50:53,879 --> 00:50:56,462 You want another shot at that last little bit? 961 00:50:56,462 --> 00:50:58,254 - Sure. 962 00:50:58,254 --> 00:51:00,920 - ♪ For truth I'm proof ♪ 963 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:07,045 - ♪ You'll find it ♪ 964 00:51:07,045 --> 00:51:09,212 - Hell yeah. - That's it. 965 00:51:09,212 --> 00:51:10,920 - That's it. - Great. 966 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,504 - They've been doing this for so long, like-- 967 00:51:13,504 --> 00:51:14,879 I mean, it's amazing. 968 00:51:14,879 --> 00:51:17,129 Like, they're brothers, you know? 969 00:51:17,129 --> 00:51:18,838 God, I've never seen two brothers 970 00:51:18,838 --> 00:51:20,379 get along that well ever. 971 00:51:20,379 --> 00:51:22,379 - It's like it's almost like a Disney movie. 972 00:51:22,379 --> 00:51:25,045 It's really-- it's really weird. 973 00:51:25,045 --> 00:51:27,045 It's a real thing, 974 00:51:27,045 --> 00:51:28,879 and maybe sounds cheesy, 975 00:51:28,879 --> 00:51:30,713 but it's really beautiful, and I think it rubs off. 976 00:51:30,713 --> 00:51:32,337 It rubs off on-- on everybody. 977 00:51:32,337 --> 00:51:39,379 - ♪ Beauty ♪ 978 00:51:39,379 --> 00:51:43,920 ♪ ♪ 979 00:51:50,629 --> 00:51:52,588 - It's a great group of people. 980 00:51:52,588 --> 00:51:54,087 Like the brothers are awesome, 981 00:51:54,087 --> 00:51:56,962 but also the team that they've built. 982 00:51:56,962 --> 00:52:00,212 Having a band that gets along, 983 00:52:00,212 --> 00:52:02,254 that everyone respects each other. 984 00:52:02,254 --> 00:52:06,671 it's not something that I've seen possibly ever. 985 00:52:06,671 --> 00:52:09,421 And I know--like, all of my friends are musicians. 986 00:52:09,421 --> 00:52:13,421 This kind of a dynamic I've never even heard of. 987 00:52:13,421 --> 00:52:20,462 ♪ ♪ 988 00:52:26,296 --> 00:52:28,713 - I look back now and know that I had, like, 989 00:52:28,713 --> 00:52:30,254 disproportionate responses 990 00:52:30,254 --> 00:52:31,879 to all kinds of things in my life, 991 00:52:31,879 --> 00:52:33,546 because this one huge thing wasn't right. 992 00:52:33,546 --> 00:52:35,296 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So, yeah, it was a-- 993 00:52:35,296 --> 00:52:38,504 It was a crazy thing, very lonely, and I just-- 994 00:52:38,504 --> 00:52:41,087 I--one of the weird-- weird experiences 995 00:52:41,087 --> 00:52:43,045 of the whole thing was-- was feeling like-- 996 00:52:43,045 --> 00:52:44,879 like there was this piece of information 997 00:52:44,879 --> 00:52:46,421 that only I knew... - Yes. 998 00:52:46,421 --> 00:52:48,087 - In the whole world. - Yes. 999 00:52:48,087 --> 00:52:50,421 - And no one else could possibly really know it. 1000 00:52:50,421 --> 00:52:52,337 Talk to anyone, I've talked with my parents, 1001 00:52:52,337 --> 00:52:54,671 talked with my closest people, talked to Scott, you know, 1002 00:52:54,671 --> 00:52:56,504 and it's like-- it's all, like, support, 1003 00:52:56,504 --> 00:52:58,421 like, do what you got to do, but, like, I was the only one 1004 00:52:58,421 --> 00:53:00,337 that could really know for sure, 1005 00:53:00,337 --> 00:53:02,045 this is the direction, you know? 1006 00:53:02,045 --> 00:53:04,254 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I appreciate you. 1007 00:53:04,254 --> 00:53:06,212 You know, you and I spoke a couple times, you know, 1008 00:53:06,212 --> 00:53:08,421 leading up to it, and I--I appreciated that. 1009 00:53:08,421 --> 00:53:10,671 - Well, you seem happy and good, like, lighter. 1010 00:53:10,671 --> 00:53:12,004 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1011 00:53:12,004 --> 00:53:13,838 - It's there. It's a real thing. 1012 00:53:13,838 --> 00:53:15,588 I think it's there for her-- for her as well. 1013 00:53:15,588 --> 00:53:17,546 - Great. 1014 00:53:17,546 --> 00:53:19,504 - But some heavy lifting. - Yeah. 1015 00:53:22,838 --> 00:53:24,546 - It's impossible to know what the-- 1016 00:53:24,546 --> 00:53:26,629 the album looks like right now, 1017 00:53:26,629 --> 00:53:29,254 but for my contribution, there's no doubt it--it-- 1018 00:53:29,254 --> 00:53:33,920 it's, uh, it rings heavily of a moment of my life. 1019 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,879 I mean, there's--there's some specificity in--in the-- 1020 00:53:37,879 --> 00:53:39,629 in some of these songs 1021 00:53:39,629 --> 00:53:41,337 that it just, I mean, you couldn't confuse 1022 00:53:41,337 --> 00:53:43,421 what the meaning is or what the-- 1023 00:53:43,421 --> 00:53:45,379 what it's speaking to. 1024 00:53:45,379 --> 00:53:47,212 I mean, when you when you name a song 1025 00:53:47,212 --> 00:53:48,962 the "Divorce Separation Blues," 1026 00:53:48,962 --> 00:53:52,796 there's really only one thing it could be about. 1027 00:53:52,796 --> 00:53:54,379 ♪ I got to the tough... ♪ 1028 00:53:54,379 --> 00:53:57,962 - Record that. - Seth, B major. 1029 00:53:57,962 --> 00:54:00,296 - Oh, yeah, I got it. 1030 00:54:00,296 --> 00:54:02,212 - It's such a weird thing that divorce is-- 1031 00:54:02,212 --> 00:54:06,754 is so common and, uh, so rare in songs. 1032 00:54:06,754 --> 00:54:08,254 Isn't that a weird thing? 1033 00:54:08,254 --> 00:54:10,504 Breakup is-- is rampant in songwriting, 1034 00:54:10,504 --> 00:54:14,879 but divorce, uh, in particular is barely mentioned. 1035 00:54:14,879 --> 00:54:17,962 [playing "Divorce Separation Blues"] 1036 00:54:21,045 --> 00:54:23,962 ♪ ♪ 1037 00:54:23,962 --> 00:54:28,170 - ♪ I'm gonna keep on living ♪ 1038 00:54:28,170 --> 00:54:32,254 ♪ Even though I sometimes do ♪ 1039 00:54:32,254 --> 00:54:36,421 ♪ Fantasize about disappearing ♪ 1040 00:54:36,421 --> 00:54:40,546 ♪ Down in the ocean blue ♪ 1041 00:54:40,546 --> 00:54:44,379 ♪ Just to get some peace and quiet ♪ 1042 00:54:44,379 --> 00:54:48,920 ♪ From the warfare inside my heart ♪ 1043 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,212 ♪ Well I've been under ear-splitting fire ♪ 1044 00:54:53,212 --> 00:54:57,421 ♪ Ever since we've been apart ♪ 1045 00:54:57,421 --> 00:55:01,462 ♪ Well I'm gonna wash the dishes ♪ 1046 00:55:01,462 --> 00:55:05,129 ♪ Pay the bills and watch the news ♪ 1047 00:55:05,129 --> 00:55:08,129 ♪ I got the tough education ♪ 1048 00:55:08,129 --> 00:55:10,045 ♪ No celebration ♪ 1049 00:55:10,045 --> 00:55:13,296 ♪ Divorce separation blues ♪ 1050 00:55:16,462 --> 00:55:21,462 ♪ ♪ 1051 00:55:21,462 --> 00:55:23,296 My divorce was about a two-year-- 1052 00:55:23,296 --> 00:55:25,462 two-year-long process, less-- 1053 00:55:25,462 --> 00:55:26,796 little less than two years, 1054 00:55:26,796 --> 00:55:30,170 and it started in late 2012. 1055 00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:32,170 But what-- I mean, what a time. 1056 00:55:32,170 --> 00:55:36,379 What a--what a-- what a time of just-- 1057 00:55:36,379 --> 00:55:40,170 just horrifying feelings and--and--and-- 1058 00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:44,379 and loneliness that you just can't even put into words. 1059 00:55:44,379 --> 00:55:46,254 - You know, I'd heard, "Oh, it's awful." 1060 00:55:46,254 --> 00:55:48,045 So I'm like "Yeah, yeah, yeah." 1061 00:55:48,045 --> 00:55:49,504 You know, it's a breakup. 1062 00:55:49,504 --> 00:55:51,296 I've broken up with girls before. 1063 00:55:51,296 --> 00:55:53,296 Man, forget about it. 1064 00:55:53,296 --> 00:55:58,087 It's, uh--it's a complete upheaval of--of everything. 1065 00:55:58,087 --> 00:55:59,796 It's like a death, you know. 1066 00:55:59,796 --> 00:56:04,671 I underestimated what that process could do. 1067 00:56:04,671 --> 00:56:09,170 - ♪ Well, I'll sign on ♪ 1068 00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:13,337 ♪ The line beneath my name ♪ 1069 00:56:13,337 --> 00:56:17,629 ♪ The road is gone ♪ 1070 00:56:17,629 --> 00:56:22,170 ♪ Can't go back the way we came ♪ 1071 00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:24,129 ♪ ♪ 1072 00:56:24,129 --> 00:56:26,379 It was kind of something that I needed to do. 1073 00:56:26,379 --> 00:56:28,671 You know, couldn't get by without doing it. 1074 00:56:28,671 --> 00:56:29,920 Had--had to do it. 1075 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,212 Had--had to write a song about it, 1076 00:56:31,212 --> 00:56:32,879 about--about divorce. 1077 00:56:32,879 --> 00:56:37,170 It's a, uh--it's a portrait of a time, you know. 1078 00:56:37,170 --> 00:56:40,796 Couldn't write it before, couldn't write it now. 1079 00:56:40,796 --> 00:56:45,504 ♪ Well now I'm bound to break a promise ♪ 1080 00:56:45,504 --> 00:56:48,838 ♪ One I made to God and you ♪ 1081 00:56:48,838 --> 00:56:51,796 ♪ I got the tough education ♪ 1082 00:56:51,796 --> 00:56:53,962 ♪ No celebration ♪ 1083 00:56:53,962 --> 00:56:57,462 ♪ Divorce separation blues ♪ 1084 00:56:57,462 --> 00:57:00,462 ♪ I got the tough education ♪ 1085 00:57:00,462 --> 00:57:02,588 ♪ No celebration ♪ 1086 00:57:02,588 --> 00:57:04,546 ♪ Bad communication ♪ 1087 00:57:04,546 --> 00:57:06,838 ♪ Worse interpretation ♪ 1088 00:57:06,838 --> 00:57:08,713 ♪ Love deprivation ♪ 1089 00:57:08,713 --> 00:57:11,212 ♪ Pain allocation ♪ 1090 00:57:11,212 --> 00:57:13,129 ♪ Soul devastation ♪ 1091 00:57:13,129 --> 00:57:15,296 ♪ Cold desolation ♪ 1092 00:57:15,296 --> 00:57:17,254 ♪ Life complication ♪ 1093 00:57:17,254 --> 00:57:19,546 ♪ Resuscitation ♪ 1094 00:57:19,546 --> 00:57:23,588 ♪ Divorce separation ♪ 1095 00:57:23,588 --> 00:57:27,421 ♪ Blues ♪ 1096 00:57:30,421 --> 00:57:37,546 ♪ ♪ 1097 00:57:55,421 --> 00:57:57,004 - No, thank you. 1098 00:57:57,004 --> 00:57:58,962 - I'm gonna do that before I work out today. 1099 00:57:58,962 --> 00:58:00,838 - You're not gonna want-- - Peanut butter. 1100 00:58:00,838 --> 00:58:03,671 - Let's eat some eggs. 1101 00:58:03,671 --> 00:58:05,296 - I always get up and I'm like, 1102 00:58:05,296 --> 00:58:07,004 "Ugh, I got to go over there and help Joe." 1103 00:58:07,004 --> 00:58:08,879 And I'm like, "I can't get up. 1104 00:58:08,879 --> 00:58:11,087 - "I can't do it." - "Can't help Joe." 1105 00:58:11,087 --> 00:58:13,920 - This is part of, uh... - This is part of-- 1106 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,546 - Joe's job description that... 1107 00:58:15,546 --> 00:58:16,962 - Part of paying the dues. 1108 00:58:16,962 --> 00:58:18,588 - Right. 1109 00:58:18,588 --> 00:58:20,254 Which will never be paid in full. 1110 00:58:20,254 --> 00:58:21,920 - Never be-- I keep messing up. 1111 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,588 - Yeah. That's right. - I keep messing up. 1112 00:58:23,588 --> 00:58:25,296 - You're messing up right now, man. 1113 00:58:25,296 --> 00:58:26,838 You put peppers in these eggs. 1114 00:58:26,838 --> 00:58:30,004 It's gonna sabotage every vocal track I'm using. 1115 00:58:30,004 --> 00:58:31,920 - It's not spicy. They're-- 1116 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,504 It's not too spicy. 1117 00:58:33,504 --> 00:58:35,296 I was playing with another band. 1118 00:58:35,296 --> 00:58:38,629 The Avetts, they were recording "Emotionalism," 1119 00:58:38,629 --> 00:58:42,629 and it just happened that they needed a cellist for a song. 1120 00:58:42,629 --> 00:58:45,296 Went in there, recorded on one song, 1121 00:58:45,296 --> 00:58:47,254 and ended up recording on, like, six songs. 1122 00:58:47,254 --> 00:58:49,254 - It--it just clicked. You know, it just worked. 1123 00:58:49,254 --> 00:58:54,296 We just got along great, and before we knew it, Joe-- 1124 00:58:54,296 --> 00:58:57,504 Joe was--was on board and-- and much like me and Scott 1125 00:58:57,504 --> 00:59:01,170 and Bob, was, you know, came on doing multiple jobs. 1126 00:59:01,170 --> 00:59:03,337 You know, playing cello was just--was just one of them. 1127 00:59:03,337 --> 00:59:07,546 ♪ ♪ 1128 00:59:07,546 --> 00:59:10,796 - Part of to justify adding another guy 1129 00:59:10,796 --> 00:59:14,379 who just plays cello, he had to help out 1130 00:59:14,379 --> 00:59:18,337 with our merchandise and setting up and tearing down. 1131 00:59:18,337 --> 00:59:20,671 - I'm the IT guy for The Avett Brothers. 1132 00:59:20,671 --> 00:59:23,212 I'm the social media manager for the The Avett Brothers. 1133 00:59:23,212 --> 00:59:25,045 And I still do our-- our flights. 1134 00:59:25,045 --> 00:59:28,087 I--I try to do as many things as I can 1135 00:59:28,087 --> 00:59:30,588 to make it so that I can't be let go. 1136 00:59:32,170 --> 00:59:34,296 "Yes, I'll do that, uh-huh. Yeah, I'll do that too." 1137 00:59:34,296 --> 00:59:36,004 - Once we found out he could cook... 1138 00:59:36,004 --> 00:59:37,962 - Yeah. - It was over. 1139 00:59:37,962 --> 00:59:39,462 - Yeah. 1140 00:59:39,462 --> 00:59:41,504 - And that was the start of my official career 1141 00:59:41,504 --> 00:59:43,212 with The Avett Brothers. 1142 00:59:46,796 --> 00:59:48,879 [band playing "Satan Pulls the Strings"] 1143 00:59:52,212 --> 00:59:59,254 ♪ ♪ 1144 01:00:06,879 --> 01:00:09,254 - ♪ Baby's in the cradle ♪ 1145 01:00:09,254 --> 01:00:11,754 ♪ Mama's in the bed ♪ 1146 01:00:11,754 --> 01:00:14,129 ♪ Sparrow's on the windowsill ♪ 1147 01:00:14,129 --> 01:00:16,838 ♪ And the devil's in my head ♪ 1148 01:00:16,838 --> 01:00:18,588 - ♪ The devil's in my head ♪ 1149 01:00:18,588 --> 01:00:21,296 ♪ Mama, the devil's in my head ♪ 1150 01:00:21,296 --> 01:00:23,713 ♪ Baby's in the cradle ♪ 1151 01:00:23,713 --> 01:00:26,254 ♪ And the devil's in my head ♪ 1152 01:00:26,254 --> 01:00:30,254 ♪ ♪ 1153 01:00:30,254 --> 01:00:33,920 - It was neat coming in at that point because it was 1154 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,962 right before they were starting to grow quickly. 1155 01:00:37,962 --> 01:00:41,462 So, we went from playing for, like, couple hundred people 1156 01:00:41,462 --> 01:00:43,962 in Phoenix, Arizona, to the next time we went back, 1157 01:00:43,962 --> 01:00:45,462 it was like 600 people. 1158 01:00:45,462 --> 01:00:47,337 And then it was like 2,000 people, 1159 01:00:47,337 --> 01:00:49,920 and that you could just see, like, this gradual growth, 1160 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,296 more and more and more people are coming out all over. 1161 01:00:52,296 --> 01:00:55,129 ♪ ♪ 1162 01:00:55,129 --> 01:00:56,796 - We started getting some attention from-- 1163 01:00:56,796 --> 01:00:58,546 from some major labels 1164 01:00:58,546 --> 01:01:01,504 that were represented in and around Nashville. 1165 01:01:01,504 --> 01:01:03,754 - This lady at RCA, 1166 01:01:03,754 --> 01:01:06,045 she caught wind of the brothers. 1167 01:01:06,045 --> 01:01:08,546 We were driving back to Concord, and she called us 1168 01:01:08,546 --> 01:01:13,296 to come back and play on the RCA, like a boardroom. 1169 01:01:13,296 --> 01:01:16,379 - Like a full-on corporate boardroom. 1170 01:01:16,379 --> 01:01:19,337 Big, gigantic wooden table. 1171 01:01:19,337 --> 01:01:21,170 Probably like a dry-erase board. 1172 01:01:21,170 --> 01:01:26,129 You know, like a sterile, you know, carpeted boardroom. 1173 01:01:26,129 --> 01:01:28,170 - She sat at the end of the conference table, 1174 01:01:28,170 --> 01:01:31,337 and we just set up, full-on performed. 1175 01:01:31,337 --> 01:01:33,129 - And at this point, we're pretty well-oiled, 1176 01:01:33,129 --> 01:01:35,254 like, we can-- we can rattle our songs off. 1177 01:01:35,254 --> 01:01:37,170 We can do them well, our harmonies are there, 1178 01:01:37,170 --> 01:01:39,421 the power is there, the vocals are there. 1179 01:01:39,421 --> 01:01:41,254 And then she said, "How many of your songs-- 1180 01:01:41,254 --> 01:01:43,671 "how many--how many songs, when you put a record out, 1181 01:01:43,671 --> 01:01:47,546 do you--do you plan to be originals?" 1182 01:01:47,546 --> 01:01:49,421 We were like, "Well, all of them. 1183 01:01:49,421 --> 01:01:51,754 All of the songs." 1184 01:01:51,754 --> 01:01:55,337 - And then she said, "Well, I don't really know 1185 01:01:55,337 --> 01:01:59,296 "what and where we would put anything like this on radio. 1186 01:01:59,296 --> 01:02:01,546 "And without that, I would have to ask, 1187 01:02:01,546 --> 01:02:04,546 "would you be willing to play other people's songs 1188 01:02:04,546 --> 01:02:06,087 that other people wrote?" 1189 01:02:06,087 --> 01:02:09,379 And we just flat-out said, "No, not really." 1190 01:02:09,379 --> 01:02:11,004 - And it was just like, 1191 01:02:11,004 --> 01:02:13,087 "Man, we drove all the way back to Nashville, 1192 01:02:13,087 --> 01:02:14,713 "and they-- this person's talking 1193 01:02:14,713 --> 01:02:16,838 "about other people writing songs for us. 1194 01:02:16,838 --> 01:02:19,337 We got to get home. We got to get home." 1195 01:02:19,337 --> 01:02:23,462 - And that pretty much sealed the fate of that deal, 1196 01:02:23,462 --> 01:02:25,879 but that was a blessing it didn't happen. 1197 01:02:25,879 --> 01:02:28,254 - That experience really turned me off to the idea of-- 1198 01:02:28,254 --> 01:02:29,879 of--of a label or whatever. 1199 01:02:29,879 --> 01:02:31,170 That's why it took eight or nine years 1200 01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:32,796 to really consider it. 1201 01:02:32,796 --> 01:02:39,920 ♪ ♪ 1202 01:02:43,254 --> 01:02:46,879 - When Rick came to the-- to the table, 1203 01:02:46,879 --> 01:02:49,421 he was, like, inviting us into his home, 1204 01:02:49,421 --> 01:02:51,212 and he wanted talk about records, 1205 01:02:51,212 --> 01:02:52,838 he wanted to talk about our record 1206 01:02:52,838 --> 01:02:54,671 and how he thought it was great, 1207 01:02:54,671 --> 01:02:57,087 and didn't lead with, "I wanna do a deal with you." 1208 01:02:57,087 --> 01:03:01,337 He--he approached it like, "We might not work together. 1209 01:03:01,337 --> 01:03:03,254 "You know, that'd be kind of your call really, 1210 01:03:03,254 --> 01:03:04,421 and that's fine." 1211 01:03:04,421 --> 01:03:06,004 - And at the end of the--the-- 1212 01:03:06,004 --> 01:03:07,588 the meeting there, he just said, 1213 01:03:07,588 --> 01:03:09,212 "Well, if we can work together, I'd love to, 1214 01:03:09,212 --> 01:03:10,588 if you guys want to." 1215 01:03:10,588 --> 01:03:15,004 - He was the main reason we agreed to sign 1216 01:03:15,004 --> 01:03:17,379 into a major label deal. 1217 01:03:17,379 --> 01:03:19,920 - I remember them talking about it and I-- 1218 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,421 and I was like, "Rick Rubin, really?" 1219 01:03:21,421 --> 01:03:23,087 You know, like I-- 1220 01:03:23,087 --> 01:03:26,796 and they didn't even know, like, who he was, so... 1221 01:03:26,796 --> 01:03:32,462 - I can't imagine them ever making any choices creatively 1222 01:03:32,462 --> 01:03:35,462 with the idea of gaining more of an audience. 1223 01:03:35,462 --> 01:03:37,296 It's never been about that. 1224 01:03:37,296 --> 01:03:40,087 It's always been about pure expression of who they are, 1225 01:03:40,087 --> 01:03:43,296 and the label's job is just to allow people 1226 01:03:43,296 --> 01:03:46,296 to find out about them. 1227 01:03:53,045 --> 01:03:55,920 - I was losing an act on a record label, 1228 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,462 but I was proud to lose the act to Rick, 1229 01:03:59,462 --> 01:04:02,004 to go to his label because I knew 1230 01:04:02,004 --> 01:04:03,838 he would help them with their art. 1231 01:04:03,838 --> 01:04:07,337 He could help further them down the road artistically, 1232 01:04:07,337 --> 01:04:10,838 help them create the albums they wanna create. 1233 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:21,004 ♪ ♪ 1234 01:04:23,087 --> 01:04:24,754 - The plan has always been we come in here 1235 01:04:24,754 --> 01:04:26,838 with a seven-piece band 1236 01:04:26,838 --> 01:04:28,754 and plow through the songs 1237 01:04:28,754 --> 01:04:33,004 in a very colorful, natural way. 1238 01:04:33,004 --> 01:04:35,004 We get in here, we have-- we're forced to-- 1239 01:04:35,004 --> 01:04:39,838 especially with Rick, we're forced to rethink that. 1240 01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:44,421 - ♪ Baby's in the cradle ♪ 1241 01:04:44,421 --> 01:04:47,045 ♪ Mama's in the bed ♪ 1242 01:04:47,045 --> 01:04:48,920 ♪ Sparrow's on the windowsill ♪ 1243 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,754 ♪ And the devil's in my head ♪ 1244 01:04:51,754 --> 01:04:53,713 - The bus is the-- the small studio 1245 01:04:53,713 --> 01:04:56,546 where they're doing a lot of the electronic sounds 1246 01:04:56,546 --> 01:05:00,920 based on the compositions that we're performing in here. 1247 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,879 We'll do one pass where we're just practicing, 1248 01:05:02,879 --> 01:05:05,337 and then we'll do a real deal. 1249 01:05:05,337 --> 01:05:07,462 We are kind of at a crossroads 1250 01:05:07,462 --> 01:05:10,879 where we're in a fork in the road 1251 01:05:10,879 --> 01:05:12,879 where we could take one or the other. 1252 01:05:12,879 --> 01:05:17,713 Do we--do we just continue to document and that's fine, 1253 01:05:17,713 --> 01:05:20,212 that's great, if-- if this band is--is that, 1254 01:05:20,212 --> 01:05:22,254 then it is or do we-- 1255 01:05:22,254 --> 01:05:25,170 do we turn and-- and explore and discover. 1256 01:05:25,170 --> 01:05:28,671 Hey, I saw a horse up the road with a broke leg. 1257 01:05:28,671 --> 01:05:32,421 Don't you all shoot a horse with a broke leg around here? 1258 01:05:32,421 --> 01:05:35,170 No, we shoot him with a shotgun. 1259 01:05:37,838 --> 01:05:44,920 ♪ ♪ 1260 01:05:51,504 --> 01:05:53,045 Say, you're not-- 1261 01:05:53,045 --> 01:05:55,546 there's not much between you and a fool, is there? 1262 01:05:55,546 --> 01:05:57,129 - No. Just that fiddle. 1263 01:05:57,129 --> 01:05:59,212 - Ah. 1264 01:06:19,087 --> 01:06:21,087 - All right, sweetheart. 1265 01:06:21,087 --> 01:06:22,462 Okay, bye. 1266 01:06:24,045 --> 01:06:25,962 - The song-- the group of songs, 1267 01:06:25,962 --> 01:06:28,462 they cover a lot of things, 1268 01:06:28,462 --> 01:06:30,796 big things as well as intimate enough things 1269 01:06:30,796 --> 01:06:33,713 that are important here and now for our band 1270 01:06:33,713 --> 01:06:35,796 and for us as people. 1271 01:06:35,796 --> 01:06:38,254 - ♪ I was embarrassed ♪ 1272 01:06:38,254 --> 01:06:43,045 ♪ About how I got beat down ♪ 1273 01:06:43,045 --> 01:06:45,920 ♪ I was ashamed ♪ 1274 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,838 ♪ But now I'm just plain proud ♪ 1275 01:06:50,838 --> 01:06:56,004 ♪ What's this connection we both feel ♪ 1276 01:06:56,004 --> 01:07:02,170 ♪ We have with each other ♪ 1277 01:07:04,421 --> 01:07:06,087 Yeah. 1278 01:07:06,087 --> 01:07:07,962 ♪ Back and forth ♪ 1279 01:07:07,962 --> 01:07:09,879 ♪ We can't afford ♪ 1280 01:07:09,879 --> 01:07:13,671 ♪ Another change of plans ♪ 1281 01:07:13,671 --> 01:07:15,546 ♪ Bent and sold ♪ 1282 01:07:15,546 --> 01:07:22,504 ♪ Spent and torn like money, changing hands ♪ 1283 01:07:22,504 --> 01:07:24,170 - Oh, straight in maybe. - Happening once. 1284 01:07:24,170 --> 01:07:26,129 - I think so. On that one, I think it does. 1285 01:07:26,129 --> 01:07:27,796 One more time. - So... 1286 01:07:34,629 --> 01:07:37,838 - There is, yeah. There is. 1287 01:07:37,838 --> 01:07:41,713 ♪ ♪ 1288 01:07:41,713 --> 01:07:43,838 I'm gonna be a dad. 1289 01:07:45,671 --> 01:07:49,087 Today, Jennifer's 15 weeks. 1290 01:07:49,087 --> 01:07:52,087 Yeah. Second trimester. 1291 01:07:52,087 --> 01:07:57,212 My--my Baby Phone app says it's the size of a pear now. 1292 01:07:57,212 --> 01:07:59,379 ♪ We move together ♪ 1293 01:07:59,379 --> 01:08:04,546 ♪ Like a Coltrane song ♪ 1294 01:08:04,546 --> 01:08:07,212 ♪ If you embrace me ♪ 1295 01:08:07,212 --> 01:08:12,337 ♪ Well I'll try to hold on ♪ 1296 01:08:12,337 --> 01:08:17,087 ♪ What's this connection we both feel ♪ 1297 01:08:17,087 --> 01:08:24,170 ♪ We have with each other ♪ 1298 01:08:24,170 --> 01:08:27,546 Yeah. 1299 01:08:27,546 --> 01:08:32,337 ♪ What's this connection we both feel ♪ 1300 01:08:32,337 --> 01:08:38,462 ♪ We have with each other ♪ 1301 01:08:38,462 --> 01:08:41,254 I was leaving for Portland that day. 1302 01:08:41,254 --> 01:08:42,588 - Mm-hmm. 1303 01:08:42,588 --> 01:08:44,254 - And we had a show the next day, I guess, 1304 01:08:44,254 --> 01:08:47,087 September 5th or whatever. So that was interesting. 1305 01:08:47,087 --> 01:08:49,962 Had this--this big moment and this big news, 1306 01:08:49,962 --> 01:08:52,087 and this excitement and it's like, 1307 01:08:52,087 --> 01:08:53,504 "Can you run me to the airport, babe? 1308 01:08:53,504 --> 01:08:55,296 "We really--I gotta get over there. 1309 01:08:55,296 --> 01:08:57,920 Like, yeah, security's gonna be bad at this time of day." 1310 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,546 - Every second is an adjustment. 1311 01:09:00,546 --> 01:09:02,713 I mean, it's exactly what I want, 1312 01:09:02,713 --> 01:09:05,796 but, like, it's just so odd, you know. 1313 01:09:05,796 --> 01:09:07,212 I don't know. I haven't-- 1314 01:09:07,212 --> 01:09:08,879 I have no idea what's happening. 1315 01:09:08,879 --> 01:09:10,920 What's gonna-- what's coming our way. 1316 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,462 ♪ ♪ 1317 01:09:14,296 --> 01:09:17,170 Did he tell you You just gathered, yeah. 1318 01:09:17,170 --> 01:09:21,796 It'll be a--it will be an interesting spring. 1319 01:09:21,796 --> 01:09:24,087 Big time. 1320 01:09:24,087 --> 01:09:26,838 - I thought it would be, like, the regret of my-- 1321 01:09:26,838 --> 01:09:28,754 my lifetime if I didn't do it, 1322 01:09:28,754 --> 01:09:33,296 and I've--I've never really wanted to like I do, so... 1323 01:09:33,296 --> 01:09:34,629 - Same. 1324 01:09:36,337 --> 01:09:39,588 - Really personal stuff to record. 1325 01:09:39,588 --> 01:09:41,129 It's okay. 1326 01:09:41,129 --> 01:09:42,671 - That's--that's how you get the quality, right? 1327 01:09:42,671 --> 01:09:44,296 - Forget sharing songs. 1328 01:09:44,296 --> 01:09:45,754 We're talking about why we're gonna be parents. 1329 01:09:45,754 --> 01:09:47,337 - "Your songs are so personal and--" 1330 01:09:47,337 --> 01:09:49,337 Yeah. 1331 01:09:49,337 --> 01:09:56,379 ♪ ♪ 1332 01:10:00,838 --> 01:10:02,754 Yeah, man. All that's feeling really cool. 1333 01:10:02,754 --> 01:10:04,504 - Cool. 1334 01:10:04,504 --> 01:10:07,296 Yeah, I need to write it out differently. 1335 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,296 You guys excited? I'm so excited. 1336 01:10:15,462 --> 01:10:17,337 - This is incredible. 1337 01:10:17,337 --> 01:10:21,379 It's like the show got away from me by being too good. 1338 01:10:21,379 --> 01:10:23,879 Like, I book some friends and then people call up and go, 1339 01:10:23,879 --> 01:10:25,462 "Hey, I'm around." 1340 01:10:25,462 --> 01:10:27,170 And then suddenly, like, the show is so much better 1341 01:10:27,170 --> 01:10:29,713 than me that it's weird. 1342 01:10:29,713 --> 01:10:31,254 The--The Avett Brothers are here. 1343 01:10:31,254 --> 01:10:32,546 I mean, it's... 1344 01:10:32,546 --> 01:10:35,713 it's--it's crazy. 1345 01:10:35,713 --> 01:10:38,004 We're--we're working on a-- a documentary about them 1346 01:10:38,004 --> 01:10:39,379 and then I said, "Hey, you wanna come down?" 1347 01:10:39,379 --> 01:10:42,296 And they oddly said yes. 1348 01:10:42,296 --> 01:10:45,129 - Hey, we need about six or seven more people in here. 1349 01:10:45,129 --> 01:10:47,588 You know... 1350 01:10:47,588 --> 01:10:49,504 - Yeah, oh, there's some people back there. 1351 01:10:49,504 --> 01:10:50,879 Let's bring them in. 1352 01:10:50,879 --> 01:10:53,713 - Yeah, 10 or 11 more. 1353 01:10:53,713 --> 01:10:56,296 ♪ ♪ 1354 01:10:56,296 --> 01:10:58,379 - Initially, when you're 16 years old 1355 01:10:58,379 --> 01:11:00,462 and you wanna start playing music, 1356 01:11:00,462 --> 01:11:03,337 you do it because it just makes you feel good, right? 1357 01:11:03,337 --> 01:11:07,170 But then you get into doing it and it's--it's your job, 1358 01:11:07,170 --> 01:11:11,754 but whatever normalcy I had developed, or, you know, 1359 01:11:11,754 --> 01:11:14,713 taking it for granted before Hallie got sick, 1360 01:11:14,713 --> 01:11:17,713 and I took that time off, well, that's gone now. 1361 01:11:17,713 --> 01:11:20,045 You know, now I don't take it for granted at all. 1362 01:11:20,045 --> 01:11:23,337 Now I know that I--I-- I know of all of us, 1363 01:11:23,337 --> 01:11:25,254 I know what it's like when it's gone. 1364 01:11:25,254 --> 01:11:27,421 And I know how fragile it is. 1365 01:11:29,337 --> 01:11:32,254 Sam, remember when we made the snowmen? 1366 01:11:32,254 --> 01:11:34,754 Which one is your favorite one? 1367 01:11:34,754 --> 01:11:36,796 - Construction ones. - Yeah. 1368 01:11:36,796 --> 01:11:40,004 Construction worker snowman. He's my favorite too. 1369 01:11:40,004 --> 01:11:41,713 - And that construction worker, 1370 01:11:41,713 --> 01:11:44,588 and that other construction worker right there. 1371 01:11:44,588 --> 01:11:48,462 - For whatever reason, Bob kind of grew up swinging. 1372 01:11:48,462 --> 01:11:53,962 Like he's--he's that true Jersey attitude and spirit. 1373 01:11:56,087 --> 01:11:58,379 - Down to the ground, blue-collar spirit, 1374 01:11:58,379 --> 01:12:00,421 and he's--he's just got it. 1375 01:12:00,421 --> 01:12:02,504 - This is the play room, 1376 01:12:02,504 --> 01:12:04,920 but it's also-- it's a therapy room. 1377 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,004 So we had a therapist come over and kind of consult. 1378 01:12:09,004 --> 01:12:12,379 This is a gait trainer, treadmill for Hallie 1379 01:12:12,379 --> 01:12:15,462 to try to help her learn how to walk. 1380 01:12:15,462 --> 01:12:18,129 Sam also enjoys it. 1381 01:12:18,129 --> 01:12:23,588 - I remember when Bob's daughter first got sick, 1382 01:12:23,588 --> 01:12:27,379 it was--it was tough, man. 1383 01:12:27,379 --> 01:12:31,462 - It's hard to even remember what it was like before that. 1384 01:12:31,462 --> 01:12:33,129 Everything changed forever. 1385 01:12:36,170 --> 01:12:41,504 ♪ ♪ 1386 01:12:41,504 --> 01:12:43,546 - I just remember his-- 1387 01:12:43,546 --> 01:12:46,504 his face when he found out. 1388 01:12:46,504 --> 01:12:49,004 It was-- 1389 01:12:49,004 --> 01:12:50,546 it was tough. 1390 01:12:50,546 --> 01:12:54,796 You just saw the life fall out of him, man. 1391 01:12:54,796 --> 01:12:58,170 - The whole world just kind of stopped spinning. 1392 01:12:58,170 --> 01:13:01,796 It just--that's what it felt like, and-- 1393 01:13:01,796 --> 01:13:03,254 and then there's like a three-week period 1394 01:13:03,254 --> 01:13:05,379 that's just a blur for all of us 1395 01:13:05,379 --> 01:13:09,546 where we just kind of took shifts being in the hospital. 1396 01:13:09,546 --> 01:13:11,920 - I remember going there 1397 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,713 and getting to the hospital the next day 1398 01:13:13,713 --> 01:13:16,045 and sleeping on the floor with him in the waiting room, 1399 01:13:16,045 --> 01:13:18,004 and it--and--and to this day, he's like that-- 1400 01:13:18,004 --> 01:13:19,796 that meant so much to me, 1401 01:13:19,796 --> 01:13:21,671 and I was like, you would've done that for me. 1402 01:13:21,671 --> 01:13:22,920 You know, we all would have been there 1403 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,504 for each other, so... 1404 01:13:24,504 --> 01:13:26,170 - There were doctors in the room. 1405 01:13:26,170 --> 01:13:28,004 They were a matter of fact that she's-- 1406 01:13:28,004 --> 01:13:29,546 she's not gonna make it. 1407 01:13:29,546 --> 01:13:32,337 From that moment on... 1408 01:13:35,754 --> 01:13:38,796 well, we were all forced to-- to decide if-- 1409 01:13:38,796 --> 01:13:40,671 if we believed in God or not. 1410 01:13:40,671 --> 01:13:44,254 You had to because that was the--the choice of hope or not. 1411 01:13:44,254 --> 01:13:45,754 - Do you want maybe look at some other horses 1412 01:13:45,754 --> 01:13:47,546 or something? - Yeah. 1413 01:13:47,546 --> 01:13:49,421 - Okay. Hey, buddy, let's get your shoes and your-- 1414 01:13:49,421 --> 01:13:51,462 your socks and your jacket on. 1415 01:13:54,588 --> 01:13:56,879 - She's usually really cute when we pull up. 1416 01:13:56,879 --> 01:13:59,337 - She gets all excited. 1417 01:14:02,337 --> 01:14:04,629 ♪ ♪ 1418 01:14:04,629 --> 01:14:07,087 Hi, Hallie. 1419 01:14:07,087 --> 01:14:09,462 - Ahhh! - Hi. 1420 01:14:09,462 --> 01:14:10,962 How'd it go today? 1421 01:14:10,962 --> 01:14:12,920 - She had a great day. - Good. 1422 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,296 - She found a lot of eggs. 1423 01:14:15,296 --> 01:14:17,170 - Yeah. They put some on the shelf. 1424 01:14:17,170 --> 01:14:19,004 We had another class help us hide them in the classroom. 1425 01:14:19,004 --> 01:14:21,879 She found them on the shelf. - Great, awesome. 1426 01:14:21,879 --> 01:14:24,421 - I have to be careful about my wording here, but there-- 1427 01:14:24,421 --> 01:14:27,796 there has been a lot of joy since then 1428 01:14:27,796 --> 01:14:30,004 that has been born out of the event. 1429 01:14:30,004 --> 01:14:32,796 - Have a great Easter. See you in a couple weeks. 1430 01:14:32,796 --> 01:14:34,296 - There's so much that has changed 1431 01:14:34,296 --> 01:14:36,920 and so much that has happened because of-- 1432 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,962 of that, because of-- of Hallie having a brain tumor. 1433 01:14:39,962 --> 01:14:42,170 There are so many friendships that have-- 1434 01:14:42,170 --> 01:14:44,713 that have developed and-- and relationships that have-- 1435 01:14:44,713 --> 01:14:48,212 have--have occurred and seeds planted 1436 01:14:48,212 --> 01:14:51,588 for so many good things to happen 1437 01:14:51,588 --> 01:14:53,421 that it's impossible for me at this moment 1438 01:14:53,421 --> 01:14:55,129 to look back and think that it was all bad. 1439 01:14:55,129 --> 01:14:56,170 - Hi. 1440 01:14:57,796 --> 01:15:00,504 - It pushed all of us to-- 1441 01:15:00,504 --> 01:15:03,296 to rise to the occasion as well as we could. 1442 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:10,170 - There was not a day through the first 2 1/2 weeks 1443 01:15:10,170 --> 01:15:15,879 when Scott, Seth, Joe, Dolph, Dane, 1444 01:15:15,879 --> 01:15:20,838 there wasn't somebody there at all times 1445 01:15:20,838 --> 01:15:23,337 from the band and our organization. 1446 01:15:23,337 --> 01:15:28,838 - ♪ I'm on my way ♪ 1447 01:15:28,838 --> 01:15:33,004 ♪ To you ♪ 1448 01:15:33,004 --> 01:15:38,421 ♪ I'm on my way ♪ 1449 01:15:38,421 --> 01:15:40,838 ♪ To you ♪ 1450 01:15:40,838 --> 01:15:42,754 - We were just forced to say, 1451 01:15:42,754 --> 01:15:47,796 "Are we gonna crumble or are we gonna have faith?" 1452 01:15:50,045 --> 01:15:53,212 Seth and I had to struggle because we had to keep going. 1453 01:15:54,754 --> 01:15:56,546 Do we get our buddy, Paul Defiglia, 1454 01:15:56,546 --> 01:15:58,920 to come and play bass for us and keep playing shows? 1455 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,713 Like, are we betraying Bob? 1456 01:16:01,713 --> 01:16:03,546 Like--like, a lot of weird sort of questions came up 1457 01:16:03,546 --> 01:16:05,588 and, like, me, and Scott, and Bob had to have some 1458 01:16:05,588 --> 01:16:09,379 really hard conversations to figure out how to move forward. 1459 01:16:09,379 --> 01:16:12,671 - I initially got called to sub for Bob 1460 01:16:12,671 --> 01:16:15,629 when his son Sam was born because he wasn't-- 1461 01:16:15,629 --> 01:16:18,588 I don't think he was there when Hallie was born. 1462 01:16:18,588 --> 01:16:21,713 And--and then I went home and I got married 1463 01:16:21,713 --> 01:16:25,170 and, like, a week after I got married, 1464 01:16:25,170 --> 01:16:28,629 I got a call back from them asking if I could come to, 1465 01:16:28,629 --> 01:16:30,379 I think it was Atlanta, 1466 01:16:30,379 --> 01:16:33,421 and play, and they told me the situation with Hallie. 1467 01:16:33,421 --> 01:16:36,170 I ended up subbing on bass for, 1468 01:16:36,170 --> 01:16:38,337 like, a year, a year and a half, 1469 01:16:38,337 --> 01:16:41,129 and Bob would come in and play whenever he could, 1470 01:16:41,129 --> 01:16:44,920 but it was real touch-and-go with her situation obviously. 1471 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,754 - And as Bob moved back in, 1472 01:16:46,754 --> 01:16:48,254 and we're able to pull back 1473 01:16:48,254 --> 01:16:49,920 and see kind of what happened, 1474 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,254 the struggle, this work and this pain 1475 01:16:52,254 --> 01:16:54,296 that Bob and Melanie had to go through firsthand 1476 01:16:54,296 --> 01:16:57,087 and that we all went through with them secondhand 1477 01:16:57,087 --> 01:17:00,170 made us all different men. 1478 01:17:00,170 --> 01:17:01,713 - It just--it just made us stronger. 1479 01:17:01,713 --> 01:17:04,045 The whole thing just made us stronger. 1480 01:17:04,045 --> 01:17:06,796 - ♪ To you ♪ 1481 01:17:06,796 --> 01:17:10,671 - Life is short and it's temporary. 1482 01:17:10,671 --> 01:17:12,546 And no matter how long-- 1483 01:17:12,546 --> 01:17:14,254 I mean, we can play until we're 90 years old, if-- 1484 01:17:14,254 --> 01:17:16,254 and I hope we do. 1485 01:17:16,254 --> 01:17:18,629 But there will be a day, we could be 95 years old, 1486 01:17:18,629 --> 01:17:20,754 and that--that day will come when we put down 1487 01:17:20,754 --> 01:17:23,920 our instruments for the last time. 1488 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,962 Like, this could be the last time we do it. 1489 01:17:25,962 --> 01:17:30,045 Tonight, this could be it. You don't know. 1490 01:17:30,045 --> 01:17:32,796 - This one's called "Morning Song." 1491 01:17:32,796 --> 01:17:39,838 ♪ ♪ 1492 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,588 - ♪ Hurt so bad ♪ 1493 01:17:50,588 --> 01:17:55,754 ♪ You don't come around here anymore ♪ 1494 01:17:58,504 --> 01:18:01,421 ♪ Worse than that ♪ 1495 01:18:01,421 --> 01:18:03,796 ♪ Nothing's really helping ♪ 1496 01:18:03,796 --> 01:18:09,045 ♪ I've been thinking 'bout drinking again ♪ 1497 01:18:12,962 --> 01:18:15,504 - ♪ It's all right ♪ 1498 01:18:15,504 --> 01:18:18,087 ♪ If you finally stop caring ♪ 1499 01:18:18,087 --> 01:18:19,838 - ♪ It's all right ♪ 1500 01:18:19,838 --> 01:18:24,379 - ♪ Just don't go and tell someone that does ♪ 1501 01:18:26,170 --> 01:18:29,754 ♪ Because even though I know there's hope ♪ 1502 01:18:29,754 --> 01:18:33,588 ♪ In every morning song ♪ 1503 01:18:33,588 --> 01:18:38,546 ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1504 01:18:40,629 --> 01:18:44,713 - ♪ Now we can go ahead ♪ 1505 01:18:44,713 --> 01:18:48,087 ♪ If no one notices ♪ 1506 01:18:48,087 --> 01:18:50,920 ♪ What's the point of it ♪ 1507 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,045 ♪ I have to ask ♪ 1508 01:18:55,045 --> 01:18:58,629 ♪ About how you learn to see ♪ 1509 01:18:58,629 --> 01:19:02,546 ♪ To hope eternally ♪ 1510 01:19:02,546 --> 01:19:05,254 ♪ When you're sure to be ♪ 1511 01:19:05,254 --> 01:19:10,796 ♪ Oh leave at last ♪ 1512 01:19:10,796 --> 01:19:13,546 ♪ Hurts so bad ♪ 1513 01:19:13,546 --> 01:19:18,421 ♪ More than I expected that it would ♪ 1514 01:19:21,212 --> 01:19:24,421 ♪ And worse than that ♪ 1515 01:19:24,421 --> 01:19:27,170 ♪ It seems to be lasting ♪ 1516 01:19:27,170 --> 01:19:32,588 ♪ Just a little longer than it should ♪ 1517 01:19:36,462 --> 01:19:38,754 - ♪ It's all right ♪ 1518 01:19:38,754 --> 01:19:43,045 ♪ If you finally stop caring ♪ 1519 01:19:43,045 --> 01:19:47,754 ♪ Just don't go and tell someone that does ♪ 1520 01:19:50,212 --> 01:19:53,337 - ♪ Because even though I know there's hope ♪ 1521 01:19:53,337 --> 01:19:57,421 ♪ In every morning song ♪ 1522 01:19:57,421 --> 01:20:01,170 ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1523 01:20:01,170 --> 01:20:05,004 - ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1524 01:20:05,004 --> 01:20:08,588 - ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1525 01:20:08,588 --> 01:20:12,004 - ♪ I have to find that melody alone. 1526 01:20:12,004 --> 01:20:15,796 - ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1527 01:20:15,796 --> 01:20:19,337 - ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1528 01:20:19,337 --> 01:20:22,920 - ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1529 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,546 - ♪ I have to find that melody alone ♪ 1530 01:20:26,546 --> 01:20:30,254 - ♪ I have to sing ♪ 1531 01:20:30,254 --> 01:20:35,129 - ♪ The melody alone ♪ 1532 01:20:48,170 --> 01:20:50,379 - Thank you. 1533 01:20:53,629 --> 01:20:57,713 Thank you very much. We're the Avett Brothers. 1534 01:20:57,713 --> 01:21:01,045 - Thank you, Judd. Thanks for listening. 1535 01:21:04,004 --> 01:21:10,421 ♪ ♪ 1536 01:21:10,421 --> 01:21:12,838 - Shouldn't there be a little bit more movement in that? 1537 01:21:12,838 --> 01:21:14,796 - That's what I'm saying. I want you to move. 1538 01:21:14,796 --> 01:21:18,838 - Okay. - And I'll just do the chord. 1539 01:21:18,838 --> 01:21:22,004 And then "No Hard Feelings" is... 1540 01:21:22,004 --> 01:21:25,170 C-sharp minor. G-sharp minor. 1541 01:21:25,170 --> 01:21:27,462 Oh, my bad. G-sharp major. 1542 01:21:27,462 --> 01:21:30,004 - See, that's-- - That's the best one. 1543 01:21:30,004 --> 01:21:32,421 - Regardless of what we have become 1544 01:21:32,421 --> 01:21:36,337 in the last 13 years, one thing that we've become 1545 01:21:36,337 --> 01:21:41,254 professionals at is reading our diary on stage. 1546 01:21:41,254 --> 01:21:44,296 Singing about being alienated from myself 1547 01:21:44,296 --> 01:21:47,045 and worries and just desolation and pain 1548 01:21:47,045 --> 01:21:49,212 and all that stuff and just singing 1549 01:21:49,212 --> 01:21:52,004 that on stage seems completely reasonable to me. 1550 01:21:52,004 --> 01:21:54,671 - Let's try it. 1551 01:21:54,671 --> 01:21:56,713 - Ready. - Let's do it. 1552 01:21:56,713 --> 01:22:01,546 - One, two, three, four. 1553 01:22:07,671 --> 01:22:14,754 ♪ ♪ 1554 01:22:18,004 --> 01:22:21,546 - ♪ When my body won't hold me anymore ♪ 1555 01:22:21,546 --> 01:22:28,254 ♪ And it finally lets me free ♪ 1556 01:22:28,254 --> 01:22:30,920 ♪ Will I be ready ♪ 1557 01:22:33,087 --> 01:22:36,421 ♪ When my feet won't walk another mile ♪ 1558 01:22:36,421 --> 01:22:43,337 ♪ And my lips give their last kiss good-bye ♪ 1559 01:22:43,337 --> 01:22:46,920 ♪ Will my hands be steady ♪ 1560 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,796 ♪ When I lay down my fears ♪ 1561 01:22:49,796 --> 01:22:52,212 ♪ My hopes and my doubts ♪ 1562 01:22:52,212 --> 01:22:54,296 ♪ The rings on my fingers ♪ 1563 01:22:54,296 --> 01:22:57,129 ♪ And the keys to my house ♪ 1564 01:22:57,129 --> 01:23:03,671 - ♪ With no hard feelings ♪ 1565 01:23:08,546 --> 01:23:12,129 - ♪ When the sun hangs low in the west ♪ 1566 01:23:12,129 --> 01:23:15,421 ♪ And the line in my chest ♪ 1567 01:23:15,421 --> 01:23:18,129 ♪ Won't be kept ♪ 1568 01:23:18,129 --> 01:23:23,337 ♪ Held at bay any longer ♪ 1569 01:23:23,337 --> 01:23:27,004 ♪ When the jealousy fades away ♪ 1570 01:23:27,004 --> 01:23:30,254 ♪ And it's ash and dust ♪ 1571 01:23:30,254 --> 01:23:33,504 ♪ For cash and lust ♪ 1572 01:23:33,504 --> 01:23:37,337 ♪ And it's just hallelujah ♪ 1573 01:23:37,337 --> 01:23:40,254 - ♪ And love in thoughts ♪ 1574 01:23:40,254 --> 01:23:42,838 ♪ Love in the words ♪ 1575 01:23:42,838 --> 01:23:47,671 ♪ Love in the songs they sing in church ♪ 1576 01:23:47,671 --> 01:23:53,838 ♪ And no hard feelings ♪ 1577 01:23:56,504 --> 01:24:02,713 ♪ Lord knows they haven't done ♪ 1578 01:24:02,713 --> 01:24:09,045 ♪ Much good for anyone ♪ 1579 01:24:09,045 --> 01:24:15,087 ♪ Kept me afraid and cold ♪ 1580 01:24:15,087 --> 01:24:20,170 ♪ With so much to have and hold ♪ 1581 01:24:24,504 --> 01:24:29,212 ♪ ♪ 1582 01:24:29,212 --> 01:24:32,588 ♪ When my body won't hold me anymore ♪ 1583 01:24:32,588 --> 01:24:39,462 ♪ And it finally lets me free ♪ 1584 01:24:39,462 --> 01:24:44,212 ♪ Where will I go ♪ 1585 01:24:44,212 --> 01:24:48,337 ♪ Will the trade winds take me south ♪ 1586 01:24:48,337 --> 01:24:51,129 ♪ Through Georgia grain ♪ 1587 01:24:51,129 --> 01:24:54,504 ♪ Or tropical rain ♪ 1588 01:24:54,504 --> 01:24:57,379 ♪ Or snow from the heavens ♪ 1589 01:25:02,170 --> 01:25:06,170 ♪ Will I join with the ocean blue ♪ 1590 01:25:06,170 --> 01:25:12,170 ♪ Or run into the savior true ♪ 1591 01:25:12,170 --> 01:25:16,212 ♪ And shake hands laughing ♪ 1592 01:25:16,212 --> 01:25:18,796 - ♪ And walk through the night ♪ 1593 01:25:18,796 --> 01:25:21,296 ♪ Straight to the light ♪ 1594 01:25:21,296 --> 01:25:26,254 ♪ Holding the love I've known in my life ♪ 1595 01:25:26,254 --> 01:25:32,879 ♪ And no hard feelings ♪ 1596 01:25:35,254 --> 01:25:41,588 ♪ Lord knows they haven't done ♪ 1597 01:25:41,588 --> 01:25:47,962 ♪ Much good for anyone ♪ 1598 01:25:47,962 --> 01:25:53,962 ♪ Kept me afraid and cold ♪ 1599 01:25:53,962 --> 01:26:00,379 ♪ With so much to have and hold ♪ 1600 01:26:00,379 --> 01:26:06,546 ♪ Under the curving sky ♪ 1601 01:26:06,546 --> 01:26:12,754 ♪ I'm finally learning why ♪ 1602 01:26:12,754 --> 01:26:18,962 ♪ It matters for me and you ♪ 1603 01:26:18,962 --> 01:26:25,337 ♪ To say it and mean it too ♪ 1604 01:26:25,337 --> 01:26:31,671 ♪ For life and its loveliness ♪ 1605 01:26:31,671 --> 01:26:38,004 ♪ And all of its ugliness ♪ 1606 01:26:38,004 --> 01:26:44,379 ♪ Good as it's been to me ♪ 1607 01:26:44,379 --> 01:26:48,713 ♪ I have no enemies ♪ 1608 01:26:50,754 --> 01:26:55,129 ♪ I have no enemies ♪ 1609 01:26:57,254 --> 01:27:01,588 ♪ I have no enemies ♪ 1610 01:27:03,796 --> 01:27:07,379 ♪ I have no enemies ♪ 1611 01:27:15,796 --> 01:27:17,671 - Excellent work, everybody. 1612 01:27:17,671 --> 01:27:20,129 Excellent. - Cool. 1613 01:27:20,129 --> 01:27:21,838 - Really good. 1614 01:27:21,838 --> 01:27:23,754 - Cool. - Really good. 1615 01:27:23,754 --> 01:27:25,879 It's a big one. - Yeah. 1616 01:27:28,379 --> 01:27:31,045 - You choose to let me. - Yeah. 1617 01:27:31,045 --> 01:27:33,796 Well, I'm burned out. A little burned out. 1618 01:27:33,796 --> 01:27:35,296 - Okay, take a little-- take a few minutes. 1619 01:27:35,296 --> 01:27:36,379 - Yeah. 1620 01:27:37,713 --> 01:27:39,546 Well done, Mike. - Well done. 1621 01:27:42,588 --> 01:27:49,629 ♪ ♪ 1622 01:27:55,129 --> 01:27:57,254 - Yeah! 1623 01:28:03,087 --> 01:28:05,713 That's weird to congratulate a-- 1624 01:28:05,713 --> 01:28:07,754 You know? 1625 01:28:07,754 --> 01:28:12,754 To be congratulated on mining of the soul. 1626 01:28:15,588 --> 01:28:17,920 - Yeah, it's weird. 1627 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,045 - Mm-hmm. 1628 01:28:23,254 --> 01:28:25,754 - Well... 1629 01:28:25,754 --> 01:28:29,045 I feel like we need some space, you know? 1630 01:28:30,462 --> 01:28:32,004 - Yeah, maybe five. - All right. 1631 01:28:32,004 --> 01:28:33,588 - Five, as we lead into the next one. 1632 01:28:33,588 --> 01:28:35,754 - All right. - It's shifting gears. 1633 01:28:35,754 --> 01:28:37,754 - I'm good. - Little fresh air-- 1634 01:28:37,754 --> 01:28:40,629 - Okay. - I'll step outside then. 1635 01:28:44,462 --> 01:28:46,087 - Still a little bit of daylight left. 1636 01:28:46,087 --> 01:28:48,337 - Just--just a few minutes. We don't need... 1637 01:28:50,379 --> 01:28:51,962 - That one's a home run, boys. 1638 01:28:51,962 --> 01:28:54,087 That's a beautiful song you guys wrote. 1639 01:28:54,087 --> 01:28:56,588 It's just beautiful. 1640 01:28:56,588 --> 01:28:59,170 - A home run. - Fucking home run, man. 1641 01:29:06,296 --> 01:29:08,129 - Oh, man. 1642 01:29:08,129 --> 01:29:10,838 It's pretty out there. 1643 01:29:24,546 --> 01:29:26,671 - Yeah, but we maybe we ought to get away 1644 01:29:26,671 --> 01:29:29,421 from Scizzy before we talk about it. 1645 01:29:29,421 --> 01:29:31,462 - Geez. - Maybe you-- 1646 01:29:31,462 --> 01:29:34,004 I thought maybe you had your fill of hearing about that one. 1647 01:29:34,004 --> 01:29:35,462 - No, no, no, no. 1648 01:29:35,462 --> 01:29:37,170 It's not about hearing about the song. 1649 01:29:37,170 --> 01:29:40,170 No, I'm--there's an elephant in the room, man. 1650 01:29:40,170 --> 01:29:43,004 The elephant in the room is that the song sells 1651 01:29:43,004 --> 01:29:47,462 and that I can't get away from that feeling for myself. 1652 01:29:47,462 --> 01:29:49,045 I can't get away-- 1653 01:29:49,045 --> 01:29:51,212 It's not just that song; it's every single song. 1654 01:29:51,212 --> 01:29:55,754 And that it's congratulated upon achieving and it-- 1655 01:29:55,754 --> 01:29:58,379 I'm deeply conflicted about it. 1656 01:29:58,379 --> 01:30:00,629 - From a mental state, 1657 01:30:00,629 --> 01:30:04,879 I think I compartmentalize the congratulatory vibe. 1658 01:30:04,879 --> 01:30:07,713 I relegate it to just the technical. 1659 01:30:07,713 --> 01:30:09,379 Like, all right, good job, you know? 1660 01:30:09,379 --> 01:30:11,004 We hit all the chords kind of thing, you know? 1661 01:30:11,004 --> 01:30:12,879 Like that's-- that's I think what I-- 1662 01:30:12,879 --> 01:30:14,754 just as my go-to so I don't have to think 1663 01:30:14,754 --> 01:30:17,212 about what it means to be congratulated 1664 01:30:17,212 --> 01:30:20,629 on tapping into whatever the subject is, you know. 1665 01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:22,129 - And you're ignoring that then. 1666 01:30:22,129 --> 01:30:23,879 - Yeah. 1667 01:30:23,879 --> 01:30:25,212 - Because it's there. 1668 01:30:25,212 --> 01:30:28,713 - Yeah. I don't know if it's-- 1669 01:30:28,713 --> 01:30:30,629 I don't know if that's a successful way of doing it, 1670 01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:35,296 but it seems to-- it's okay for me. 1671 01:30:35,296 --> 01:30:39,087 - There's--yeah, right. 1672 01:30:39,087 --> 01:30:41,421 - I get--I get what you're saying, 100%. 1673 01:30:41,421 --> 01:30:43,671 I mean, I--I get exactly what you mean. 1674 01:30:43,671 --> 01:30:46,629 - I mean to say, like, you can say, "Man, 1675 01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:49,671 that's the best song you brought to this whole thing." 1676 01:30:49,671 --> 01:30:53,796 It's like, Jesus Christ, why? 1677 01:30:54,754 --> 01:30:56,588 Why is it the best? 1678 01:30:56,588 --> 01:30:59,129 Because-- 1679 01:30:59,129 --> 01:31:01,421 Not because of the technical ability of it, that's for sure. 1680 01:31:01,421 --> 01:31:02,796 - No. 1681 01:31:02,796 --> 01:31:04,421 - That's not-- that's not what it is. 1682 01:31:04,421 --> 01:31:06,629 It's about--it's--it's-- it's the best song 1683 01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:10,754 that's the most demanding because it's-- 1684 01:31:10,754 --> 01:31:13,754 it's taken the most sacrifice to make probably. 1685 01:31:13,754 --> 01:31:15,671 It's taken the most living to make. 1686 01:31:15,671 --> 01:31:17,129 - Yeah. 1687 01:31:17,129 --> 01:31:18,920 - And so that-- it just makes me equate it 1688 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,170 to congratulations, you've sacrificed 1689 01:31:21,170 --> 01:31:22,588 the shit out of yourself. 1690 01:31:22,588 --> 01:31:26,129 Excuse me, you've sacrificed deeply, 1691 01:31:26,129 --> 01:31:28,713 and the evidence of that struggle 1692 01:31:28,713 --> 01:31:31,170 came out in something beautiful. 1693 01:31:34,379 --> 01:31:37,004 That's a good way of looking at it, I guess. 1694 01:31:43,296 --> 01:31:46,129 - All right, we-- burning daylight. 1695 01:31:55,379 --> 01:31:58,421 ["Fisher Road to Hollywood" begins] 1696 01:32:01,671 --> 01:32:08,462 ♪ ♪ 1697 01:32:08,462 --> 01:32:11,838 - ♪ Regret for every step I took ♪ 1698 01:32:11,838 --> 01:32:15,337 ♪ From Fisher Road to Hollywood ♪ 1699 01:32:15,337 --> 01:32:18,713 ♪ Feeling bad and acting good ♪ 1700 01:32:18,713 --> 01:32:21,379 ♪ Never was content ♪ 1701 01:32:21,379 --> 01:32:23,212 ♪ It was hostile ♪ 1702 01:32:23,212 --> 01:32:24,920 - I never ask the guys what the songs are about, 1703 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,337 'cause I can put the songs in my own context. 1704 01:32:28,337 --> 01:32:30,879 I like so many and sometimes 1705 01:32:30,879 --> 01:32:33,546 I like to listen to 'em with my kids. 1706 01:32:33,546 --> 01:32:35,546 Sometimes there's certain songs I just wanna listen to 1707 01:32:35,546 --> 01:32:37,212 in the dark with nobody. 1708 01:32:37,212 --> 01:32:40,546 - ♪ And do we even speak the same ♪ 1709 01:32:40,546 --> 01:32:44,045 ♪ Language anymore ♪ 1710 01:32:44,045 --> 01:32:48,379 - For me, looking at songs from an outside point of view, 1711 01:32:48,379 --> 01:32:51,462 it's--it's like a growth, it's their age, you know? 1712 01:32:51,462 --> 01:32:54,129 It's just like a timeline. Each song is a timeline. 1713 01:32:54,129 --> 01:33:00,212 - ♪ I've done all I know to do ♪ 1714 01:33:00,212 --> 01:33:02,212 ♪ ♪ 1715 01:33:02,212 --> 01:33:04,379 ♪ They say stand up straight ♪ 1716 01:33:04,379 --> 01:33:07,212 - We've been accused of being fatalist as a band, 1717 01:33:07,212 --> 01:33:11,421 but we've seen enough tragedy in our lives 1718 01:33:11,421 --> 01:33:14,504 and we know that tragedy comes from--from out of nowhere. 1719 01:33:14,504 --> 01:33:16,713 Come--just comes from out of nowhere. 1720 01:33:16,713 --> 01:33:22,504 - ♪ Still I have to go ♪ 1721 01:33:22,504 --> 01:33:29,379 ♪ ♪ 1722 01:33:57,296 --> 01:34:01,838 - They have a job; this job happens to be making music, 1723 01:34:01,838 --> 01:34:04,629 and they happen to be fairly popular with it. 1724 01:34:04,629 --> 01:34:08,337 That--that ain't the end of the world. 1725 01:34:08,337 --> 01:34:10,629 It's nice to be successful at your job. 1726 01:34:10,629 --> 01:34:12,462 But I mean, if you were an accountant 1727 01:34:12,462 --> 01:34:14,504 or you were a plumber or whatever, it-- 1728 01:34:14,504 --> 01:34:16,129 it's nice to be successful at it, 1729 01:34:16,129 --> 01:34:18,462 but you can't let that go to your head. 1730 01:34:18,462 --> 01:34:20,045 - All right. 1731 01:34:23,713 --> 01:34:27,004 - ♪ She's fighting with the sky ♪ 1732 01:34:27,004 --> 01:34:28,379 - Wow. 1733 01:34:28,379 --> 01:34:32,296 - ♪ She thinks she can ♪ 1734 01:34:32,296 --> 01:34:36,296 ♪ Living within a lie ♪ 1735 01:34:36,296 --> 01:34:40,629 ♪ She thinks she can ♪ 1736 01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:45,879 - ♪ But nobody knows what lies beyond the days ♪ 1737 01:34:45,879 --> 01:34:49,045 ♪ Before the day we die ♪ 1738 01:34:49,045 --> 01:34:52,796 ♪ Die, die, die, die, die, die, die ♪ 1739 01:34:52,796 --> 01:34:56,004 ♪ Die, die, die, die, die, die, die ♪ 1740 01:34:56,004 --> 01:34:58,170 ♪ Die, die, die ♪ 1741 01:34:58,170 --> 01:35:01,170 ♪ ♪ 1742 01:35:01,170 --> 01:35:04,838 - ♪ She puts her hands against ♪ 1743 01:35:04,838 --> 01:35:09,087 ♪ The life she had ♪ 1744 01:35:09,087 --> 01:35:12,920 ♪ Living with ignorance ♪ 1745 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,754 ♪ Blissful and sad ♪ 1746 01:35:16,754 --> 01:35:22,379 - ♪ But nobody knows what lies beyond the days ♪ 1747 01:35:22,379 --> 01:35:25,462 ♪ Before the day we die ♪ 1748 01:35:25,462 --> 01:35:28,796 ♪ Die, die, die, die, die, die, die ♪ 1749 01:35:28,796 --> 01:35:32,671 ♪ Die, die, die, die, die, die, die ♪ 1750 01:35:32,671 --> 01:35:34,588 ♪ Die, die, die ♪ 1751 01:35:34,588 --> 01:35:37,004 ♪ ♪ 1752 01:35:37,004 --> 01:35:41,170 - ♪ You can try to swim the sea ♪ 1753 01:35:41,170 --> 01:35:45,588 ♪ You can try to hold the breeze ♪ 1754 01:35:45,588 --> 01:35:49,546 ♪ You can try to hide the sun ♪ 1755 01:35:49,546 --> 01:35:55,546 ♪ But say good-bye to everyone ♪ 1756 01:35:55,546 --> 01:35:59,170 ♪ ♪ 1757 01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:11,713 ♪ ♪ 1758 01:36:11,713 --> 01:36:14,254 - ♪ There ain't no man can save me ♪ 1759 01:36:14,254 --> 01:36:17,170 ♪ There ain't no man can enslave me ♪ 1760 01:36:17,170 --> 01:36:18,879 ♪ Ain't no man or men ♪ 1761 01:36:18,879 --> 01:36:21,421 ♪ That can change the shape my soul is in ♪ 1762 01:36:21,421 --> 01:36:22,796 - Oh! 1763 01:36:22,796 --> 01:36:25,296 - ♪ There ain't nobody here ♪ 1764 01:36:25,296 --> 01:36:26,796 ♪ Who can cause me pain ♪ 1765 01:36:26,796 --> 01:36:28,379 ♪ Or raise my fear ♪ 1766 01:36:28,379 --> 01:36:31,796 ♪ 'Cause I got only love to share ♪ 1767 01:36:31,796 --> 01:36:33,337 - ♪ That's it ♪ 1768 01:36:33,337 --> 01:36:35,004 - ♪ If you're looking for truth ♪ 1769 01:36:35,004 --> 01:36:37,087 ♪ I'm proof you'll find it there ♪ 1770 01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,254 - ♪ You say you look funny, I say you're a star ♪ 1771 01:36:43,254 --> 01:36:45,838 ♪ I say you're whatever you think you are ♪ 1772 01:36:45,838 --> 01:36:48,504 ♪ Watch the naysayers fall right in line ♪ 1773 01:36:48,504 --> 01:36:50,629 ♪ If we believe it, they'll say ♪ 1774 01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:54,087 - ♪ She's so pretty ♪ 1775 01:36:54,087 --> 01:36:58,421 ♪ He is so fine ♪ 1776 01:37:00,296 --> 01:37:03,004 - ♪ Ain't no man can save me ♪ 1777 01:37:03,004 --> 01:37:05,879 ♪ There ain't no man can enslave me ♪ 1778 01:37:05,879 --> 01:37:07,462 ♪ Ain't no man or men ♪ 1779 01:37:07,462 --> 01:37:09,296 ♪ That can change the shape my soul is in ♪ 1780 01:37:09,296 --> 01:37:11,296 - ♪ Change the shape my soul is in ♪ 1781 01:37:11,296 --> 01:37:15,254 - ♪ There ain't nobody here who can cause me pain ♪ 1782 01:37:15,254 --> 01:37:16,796 ♪ Or raise my fear ♪ 1783 01:37:16,796 --> 01:37:21,796 ♪ 'Cause I got only love to share ♪ 1784 01:37:21,796 --> 01:37:23,462 ♪ If you're looking for truth ♪ 1785 01:37:23,462 --> 01:37:26,920 ♪ I'm proof you'll find it there ♪ 1786 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,754 ♪ If you're looking for truth ♪ 1787 01:37:28,754 --> 01:37:32,170 ♪ I'm proof you'll find it there ♪ 1788 01:37:32,170 --> 01:37:35,671 ♪ If you're looking for truth I'm proof ♪ 1789 01:37:35,671 --> 01:37:42,504 ♪ You'll find it ♪ 1790 01:37:43,838 --> 01:37:47,838 ♪ ♪ 1791 01:37:50,796 --> 01:37:54,004 ♪ ♪ 1792 01:37:59,588 --> 01:38:01,546 - We love you, New York. Thank you so much. 1793 01:38:18,838 --> 01:38:21,546 - Bob kind of summed it up in, you know, 1794 01:38:21,546 --> 01:38:23,170 you put out a record 1795 01:38:23,170 --> 01:38:27,337 and everybody claps their hands and, voila, 1796 01:38:27,337 --> 01:38:28,962 here it is, and it's kind of like 1797 01:38:28,962 --> 01:38:31,588 this ending point where just for us, 1798 01:38:31,588 --> 01:38:33,754 it's really not that-- that way at all. 1799 01:38:33,754 --> 01:38:37,087 It just is this, this breakpoint where 1800 01:38:37,087 --> 01:38:38,879 just the stream keeps going. 1801 01:38:38,879 --> 01:38:40,629 - Like, put the record out and it's this, 1802 01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:43,421 tut we were doing something before this, 1803 01:38:43,421 --> 01:38:45,838 and we're already well into doing something else. 1804 01:38:45,838 --> 01:38:47,254 - Absolutely. 1805 01:38:47,254 --> 01:38:50,379 - So we kind of-- it just never stops. 1806 01:38:54,462 --> 01:38:56,920 - Well, maybe, kind of. 1807 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,671 So I was still in the hospital 1808 01:38:58,671 --> 01:39:02,462 after Isaac was born, middle of the night. 1809 01:39:02,462 --> 01:39:06,087 It's called "C-Sections and Railway Trestles." 1810 01:39:06,087 --> 01:39:09,379 ♪ ♪ 1811 01:39:09,379 --> 01:39:12,629 ♪ You're long and strong like a railway trestle ♪ 1812 01:39:12,629 --> 01:39:15,421 ♪ Dad's just a muscle and mama just a vessel ♪ 1813 01:39:15,421 --> 01:39:18,212 ♪ Meant to crawl, falling over nuzzle and nestle ♪ 1814 01:39:18,212 --> 01:39:20,879 ♪ But Dad's just a bear you can tackle down and wrestle ♪ 1815 01:39:20,879 --> 01:39:22,588 ♪ Son give me time ♪ 1816 01:39:22,588 --> 01:39:24,754 ♪ I'm a bona fide missile, if Mama says no ♪ 1817 01:39:24,754 --> 01:39:27,629 ♪ Maybe Dad will say yes-o, did you do wrong ♪ 1818 01:39:27,629 --> 01:39:29,462 ♪ Well go ahead confess-o ♪ 1819 01:39:29,462 --> 01:39:32,796 ♪ Dad just a muscle and mama just a vessel ♪ 1820 01:39:32,796 --> 01:39:36,462 ♪ ♪ 1821 01:39:36,462 --> 01:39:39,462 ♪ You all blue and your mama like a rattle ♪ 1822 01:39:39,462 --> 01:39:42,087 ♪ Came out looking like a Smurf in a battle ♪ 1823 01:39:42,087 --> 01:39:45,129 ♪ Me in the nosebleeds, mama in the saddle ♪ 1824 01:39:45,129 --> 01:39:47,629 ♪ Anesthesiologist fiddle and faddle ♪ 1825 01:39:47,629 --> 01:39:50,296 ♪ Emotion going like a stampede of cattle ♪ 1826 01:39:50,296 --> 01:39:53,087 ♪ Real like rain and coffee in Seattle ♪ 1827 01:39:53,087 --> 01:39:55,879 ♪ Brave like a Sioux brave going into battle ♪ 1828 01:39:55,879 --> 01:40:00,296 ♪ You all blue and your mama like a rattle ♪ 1829 01:40:00,296 --> 01:40:02,379 ♪ ♪ 1830 01:40:02,379 --> 01:40:05,879 ♪ Oh, life's so clear like a Rivera mural ♪ 1831 01:40:05,879 --> 01:40:08,796 ♪ Lucifer's teeth introduced the epidural ♪ 1832 01:40:08,796 --> 01:40:11,504 ♪ Dr. Jones, do you need a heaven referral ♪ 1833 01:40:11,504 --> 01:40:14,629 ♪ God sent you down to me and my girl ♪ 1834 01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:16,713 ♪ She long and tall and healthy as hell ♪ 1835 01:40:16,713 --> 01:40:18,254 ♪ But the plan went to hell ♪ 1836 01:40:18,254 --> 01:40:20,129 ♪ When the little fella fell ♪ 1837 01:40:20,129 --> 01:40:22,713 ♪ Boy went headfirst into her pelvis ♪ 1838 01:40:22,713 --> 01:40:26,588 ♪ 1956 shaking like Elvis ♪ 1839 01:40:26,588 --> 01:40:29,004 ♪ ♪ 1840 01:40:29,004 --> 01:40:32,504 ♪ Oh, yesterday born and already thinking ♪ 1841 01:40:32,504 --> 01:40:35,379 ♪ Body like a Ford and a mind like a Lincoln ♪ 1842 01:40:35,379 --> 01:40:37,212 ♪ Mama and papa in love ♪ 1843 01:40:37,212 --> 01:40:40,296 ♪ And sinking into a brand-new situation ♪ 1844 01:40:40,296 --> 01:40:41,879 ♪ Drinking up coffee like a fish ♪ 1845 01:40:41,879 --> 01:40:43,754 ♪ On the second and third shift ♪ 1846 01:40:43,754 --> 01:40:46,588 ♪ Loving every single ever-loving minute of this ♪ 1847 01:40:46,588 --> 01:40:49,087 ♪ Standing ovation for the OR specialist ♪ 1848 01:40:49,087 --> 01:40:50,671 ♪ Let me get close ♪ 1849 01:40:50,671 --> 01:40:53,045 ♪ Wanna give my son one kiss ♪ 1850 01:40:53,045 --> 01:40:57,838 ♪ On his head ♪ 1851 01:40:57,838 --> 01:41:00,920 ♪ Planning for the future, health and dental ♪ 1852 01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,796 ♪ Picking up my baby boy, easy and gentle ♪ 1853 01:41:03,796 --> 01:41:06,546 ♪ Soup for the family, sausage and lentil ♪ 1854 01:41:06,546 --> 01:41:09,212 ♪ Beans and greens, arugula and fentil ♪ 1855 01:41:09,212 --> 01:41:11,879 ♪ Don't never sleep, I'm about to go mental ♪ 1856 01:41:11,879 --> 01:41:14,504 ♪ But nothing so far has been accidental ♪ 1857 01:41:14,504 --> 01:41:17,379 ♪ Can't keep my life, so it's got to be a rental ♪ 1858 01:41:17,379 --> 01:41:21,045 ♪ Picking up my baby boy, easy and gentle ♪ 1859 01:41:21,045 --> 01:41:23,546 ♪ ♪ 1860 01:41:23,546 --> 01:41:27,337 ♪ Oh, you're long and strong like a railway trestle ♪ 1861 01:41:27,337 --> 01:41:29,879 ♪ Dad's just a muscle and mama just a vessel ♪ 1862 01:41:29,879 --> 01:41:32,629 ♪ Meant to crawl, falling over nuzzle and nestle ♪ 1863 01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:35,588 ♪ But Dad's just a bear you can tackle down and wrestle ♪ 1864 01:41:35,588 --> 01:41:38,254 ♪ You can have a pop-tent or you can have a castle ♪ 1865 01:41:38,254 --> 01:41:41,045 ♪ Try to change people but it's gonna be a hassle ♪ 1866 01:41:41,045 --> 01:41:43,546 ♪ Don't have to be an astronaut for NASA ♪ 1867 01:41:43,546 --> 01:41:46,504 ♪ But it's always good to get a gown and a tassel ♪ 1868 01:41:46,504 --> 01:41:48,296 ♪ Son have fun with your life ♪ 1869 01:41:48,296 --> 01:41:50,087 ♪ It's a drama ♪ 1870 01:41:50,087 --> 01:41:52,129 ♪ Just one period and all kinds of commas ♪ 1871 01:41:52,129 --> 01:41:54,462 ♪ Now you got a onesie but then you get pajamas ♪ 1872 01:41:54,462 --> 01:41:57,421 ♪ You know you've got me ♪ 1873 01:41:57,421 --> 01:41:59,838 ♪ And you know you've got your mama ♪ 1874 01:41:59,838 --> 01:42:05,421 ♪ ♪ 1875 01:42:07,254 --> 01:42:08,671 Thank you, thank you. 1876 01:42:08,671 --> 01:42:11,212 - That's great. - Thanks, Rick. 1877 01:42:18,713 --> 01:42:21,962 - Watch this. He likes this, watch. 1878 01:42:24,170 --> 01:42:26,962 All right, all right, all right . 1879 01:42:26,962 --> 01:42:32,588 ♪ It's raining today ♪ 1880 01:42:32,588 --> 01:42:37,879 ♪ The house framing crew ♪ 1881 01:42:37,879 --> 01:42:40,462 ♪ They all can sleep in ♪ 1882 01:42:43,962 --> 01:42:46,796 ♪ The filmmakers too ♪ 1883 01:42:54,045 --> 01:42:56,754 ♪ It's raining today ♪ 1884 01:42:59,045 --> 01:43:02,170 ♪ Let's stay in our room ♪ 1885 01:43:05,045 --> 01:43:08,212 ♪ Be patient babe ♪ 1886 01:43:10,671 --> 01:43:13,546 ♪ The clouds will break soon ♪ 1887 01:43:15,879 --> 01:43:21,004 ♪ But I must confess ♪ 1888 01:43:21,004 --> 01:43:22,879 ♪ Glad if they stay ♪ 1889 01:43:25,879 --> 01:43:28,838 ♪ I don't want to leave ♪ 1890 01:43:31,004 --> 01:43:34,129 ♪ It's raining today ♪